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MOETMAN 9th Jan 2007 20:51

Sorry Baxter ,
We are all tooo busy writing out CV's for Virgin Blue to give a **** !!!
I must advise you though , there are easier ways to get a gig with VB than via these losers. Better ask the CP , on second thought..... don't waste your time unless you enjoy good fiction from the hobbit or should i say lord of the rings :} .

Baxter Dewall 10th Jan 2007 01:41

hey Moety,

Check your PM's mate.

sinkingship 18th Jan 2007 04:01

Hi all,
Has anyone got any details on the simtest?
Thanks.

K3nnyboy 8th Feb 2007 14:19

so how does the SO programmee work??
I am a CPL/ME-IR holder freash fm trainning...

sally 10th Mar 2007 03:22

Hong Kong Express conversion courses
 
Anyone know when the Embraers leave?
How many EMB pilots have left and how many are converting to the 73?
When are their courses set for?
Thanks for any info.

Blown Seal 10th Mar 2007 03:42

Sally,
one E170 has left already the others go in the next few months "apparently", 10 of the current EMB will be leaving (out of 30), the rest will be converting to the 737 over the next 5 months or so.

sally 10th Mar 2007 04:12

Thanks Blown Seal,
Does that mean they are converting EMB pilots at the same time as taking on newbies? I know a few guys who are starting in April and wondered whether recruitment and induction courses will be ongoing for new hires at regular intervals for the rest of the summer/year?

Blown Seal 10th Mar 2007 04:30

Sally,
Yes on both counts.

jetjockey696 14th Mar 2007 06:54

Email address
 
Hi guys

Do anyone have the email address for the Chief Pilot (Captain Michael Fitz-Costa)

thanks

jj696

rwyctrln 17th Mar 2007 10:05

Name is Mike i believe. What else is the latest at HKE guys ? Heard the NG delivery are delayed due to insufficient experienced pilots ?

Grivation 18th Mar 2007 09:34

Maybe if they didn't require experienced NG drivers to sign a A$32,000 3 year bond for an aircraft they're already type rated on, then pay garbage wages with no housing alowance ..... they might get a few more! :rolleyes:

Dan Winterland 18th Mar 2007 14:42

Cathay and Dragon aren't finding it easy to recruit right now despite a reasonable expat package, so HKE have no chance.

And what's this about a bond? I thought they weren't legal in HK.

KRUGERFLAP 18th Mar 2007 16:16

HK express phones & emails
 

Capt. Michael Fitz Costa [email protected] - +852 3151 1848

Capt. Lienhard Buechi –
[email protected] - +852 3151 1912
(Portuguese speaker too)

RH Chief Connie Dick –
[email protected] - +852 3151 1963

jetjockey696 19th Mar 2007 05:50

thanks
 
Thank you Krugerflap for your help


jj696

MTR Dude 23rd Mar 2007 10:40

Heard a few rumours the other day about this mob!

They hiring S C A B S now too!
They didn't pay the refueller in HK?
They just hired quite a few Direct entry Captains from Brazil,
That must make the current FO's all warm and fuzzy inside!


So how many you original ERJ guys leaving?
Quite a BIG number I heard?
Wonder why hey?
I thought the management were all really GOOD people, especially the chief pilot.

MOETMAN 24th Mar 2007 05:48

Yea your on the money there. This operation is a disaster , just go back through previous posts. As for the CP , don't believe a word he says. He's full of it !

MTR Dude 24th Mar 2007 12:44

Sorry was being a bit mis-leading there!
The CP just tells you what you want to hear then does otherwise!
So my source heard?
So with the Brazilian direct entry captains just get out the Vaseline and then bend over and take it like a MAN!
:ugh:

ltjng 2nd Apr 2007 17:06

From my personal knowing, HKE CP is one of the best guy and the best pilot I have ever known. I am more then willing to work or fly with him.

Although I am not flying for them, but I believe He is doing his best for his job.

Just my personal comments.

e170LR 3rd Apr 2007 04:03

Wrong Itjng
 
Whilst I accept that it is your personal opinion regarding the CP, you must not know him very well. I will not say that he doesn't work hard, in fact the opposite, however this is not the issue the crews have with him. He has a very short memory. When I joined the company (knowing his background full well) I thought the crews would have a leader who would attempt to do the right thing by them. How wrong I was. He does not stand up for his boys on ANYTHING. Also, his penchant for flying off the handle and acting like a petulant little brat is well known. However the trait which I believe leads to his lack of respect the most is his lack of integrity handling the truth.

Inferno_HK 3rd Apr 2007 04:27

E170LR, I honestly think your being very diplomatic. The CP is plain out a little S:mad:T !!!! Not only does he have a short memory, but so do his two side kicks , LB and RP, that have been put in the same office cubicle so they can all find each other before the next conspiracy.

The funny part is knowing the CPs back ground from CX, thinking he would have brought some professionalism into the system, instead he has surrounded himself with scabs, flight simulator junkies as part of his go team. It amazes me how he sleeps at night, knowing that he is gonna lose another pilot yet again.

:\ :\ :\ :\ :\

PS: ltjng, you sure ur not the FLEET MANAGER of HKE !!!!!!!!! :p :p

mythbuster 3rd Apr 2007 05:24

I concur
 
:D e170LR and INFERNO ,

I could not agree more ! Someone once told me MF was a backstabing , manipulative , self centered little c*** . I thought it a little harsh at the time , I didn't think he was overly self centered. Is it not a wonderous thing how some people can rise to their full capacity given enough time.
CX had their reasons for his untimely departure , I'll let you form your own conclusions. as for itjng ...... Watsons have a special on vaseline this week , while stock lasts , don't be late !

ltjng 3rd Apr 2007 12:14

You guys are wrong, I don't work for HKE at all.....not even close. I am flying up in the far north. But I knew MF way before HKE established.

Bare in mind that he is sitting in the office, he gotta think for the company as a management pilot. He gotta execute the senior management policies whatever possible.

Yes, he should stand up for you guys pilots, but up to a certain limit,....he gotta consider the picture from the management point of view.

Just like anywhere in the world, conflict between pilots and management never ends.....good luck!!

e170LR 3rd Apr 2007 17:20


Yes, he should stand up for you guys pilots, but up to a certain limit
Unfortunately Itjng his personal limit is so low it is nonexistent. I am struggling to think of even ONE occaision where he has stood up for the pilots. A happy workplace can go a long way to making people not worry as much when they are paid sh!t wages, as the management person in direct control of the pilots that is his area of responsibility, and it is woefully neglected. I never said you work at HKE, because it is obvious you don't, or you would have the same opinion as the rest of the pilot group. Also regarding whatever else you have said I will repeat from my earlier post that he is a lying little brat, this has nothing to do with senior management policies.

Inferno_HK 3rd Apr 2007 17:36

Itjng, if you don't work for HKE, Please do us a favor and exit this forum, Your wasting your time and ours, trying to convince us. We have faced the gun directly.

Your so called Butt Buddy, MFC, has lied and played his mind games long enough. The pure proof of whats going on is directly apparent with how many pilots are leaving. Even the local chinese pilots have had enough and it does not take too much to please them.

People are fed up, with the constant betryal our CP provides in daily dosage. The question we all ask is, why. Has he forgotten his roots as a pilot, and no one in a professional arena deserves this. But every dog has his day, and his will come too.

I do suggest that you break any ties with your soo called friend, It be a shame to see a skid mark left in your undies, by our CP. I assure you, the amount of ass-kissing you do, you can get a job anywhere else, don't start at HKE.


:\ :\ :\ :\

Grivation 4th Apr 2007 02:24

Sounds like a fantastic place to work........NOT! :eek:

MOETMAN 15th Apr 2007 23:49

Yes......:yuk:

K3nnyboy 20th Apr 2007 13:38

geez...you guys are scaring all the freash out of school pilot like myself HAHA
is it really that bad to work at HKE?? like...might sound silly but, if u really enjoy flying, then im sure a little bit of **** is acceptable...but, sounds lik us are really fed up with wat so called the CP

NoseGear 26th Apr 2007 11:53

really?
 
Your a bit rich UKOK, saying the Ockers and Kiwis are willing to take any COS to fly a jet.:yuk: You've got umpteen thousand wannabees in the UK paying for jet type ratings all over the show with 250 hours and whinging because they can't get a job. If they join Easy and Ryan, they get a a great COS there.:rolleyes:
Whatever else is going on at HKE, none of the Anzacs paid for a type rating.
CX and KA are not taking low time turboprop guys, and Dragon never has. Get your facts straight, its your area, if thats where your from, that has been the start of the decay of COS.:rolleyes:
Nosey

PPRuNe Towers 26th Apr 2007 12:09

Nosegear,

Have a look at today's posts in the Monarch T+C's thread on Terms and Endearments. You'll see all the starting pay for for brand new guys across a spread of UK companies.

$90K usd basic is a tempting and realistic prospect for folks to go deeper into hock. Whether you and I like it or not it's market not lemming driven. The thought of taking that risk horrifies me but I'm not twenty, invulnerable and thinking no further than next week any more:confused: :ooh:

Rob

NoseGear 26th Apr 2007 13:09

Rob, I'm ticked about this statement, "I suspect Ozz/Nz will be their main culling ground, as most guys there seem willing to accept any lousy conditions of service to fly a jet, even piss poor small ones." Its confrontational and almost soley without merit from someone who obviously has little or no idea. Especially given the facts, almost every 20 year old you talk of will go deeper into hock, to the tune of 40,000 GBP for a type rating, and this after only 250hours. The "shiny jet" syndrome is alive and well in the UK.
"Market driven"? Absolutely, and those digging into their pockets are the "lemmings" driving it...."he did it, so I better so I can get onto that shiny jet".
Just think if none of them did? I'm certain the "market" would be forced to pay for training, as they should. At least the pay is headed in the right direction, which is nice to see for a change.
Nosegear

PPRuNe Towers 26th Apr 2007 14:26

"Just think if none of them did? I'm certain the "market" would be forced to pay for training, as they should."

I agree with you mate,

But would we, both of us, have agreed when we were twenty? That's the problem. Sadly it's shortage of pilots driving up the wages not the new guys standing up for themselves. And thus the market actually doing the driving.

I will, however, be scanning google images for a suitable lemming avatar. The main Jet thread over on the South Asia forum appears to have an infestation of the terminally naive.:ugh: :ugh: :ugh:

Rob

Arrowhead 31st Jul 2007 07:51

Every country has good and bad people, as does every airline. But for a taster of some of the bad/bizarre from Brazil, check these posts from across the PR delta...

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...ighlight=macau

Normally I would says that things can only get better, but in your case....:eek:

bartika 6th Aug 2007 08:41

Need company info.
 
Hey there, i'm looking for company information. I'm considering submitting an application, but I can't seem to find a lot of info regarding the work sules or benefits that are offered.

I've read the whole thread, so please spare me the "don't do it" posts.

Thanks

SmartiePants 16th Aug 2007 01:43

Don't do it.

dyermaker 20th Aug 2007 13:21

It's been kinda quiet here for sometime. Any news? Anyone got an interview?

SmartiePants 21st Aug 2007 02:58

Hey eco...... I do still care. Talk soon.

ncjulo 1st Jun 2016 10:21

Hello, how long did it take you to get response and the interview dates??

Vc10Tail 8th Jun 2016 15:30

Is HKE currently recruiting?Are they biased toward certsin regional nationalitiea.Neither myself nor fellow countrymen get invuted despite qualifications and experience excewding minima vua online Is there a secret route we dont know about?

DJG74 17th Jun 2016 06:29

Anyone scheduled for testing in the week of 15th - 18th August in HK? Happy to communicate and exchange knowledge if you want, just let me know. Cheers.

jetjockey696 19th Jun 2016 02:26

BTW Flydubai is also having screening in HKG...


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