cpahka ,
You got it all wrong at cafe...... HKE will take over CPA ,get rid of those EMB's , reinstate the 49er's (all except one) , run the 744's to Canton and sack the management ....... How do I know all this? The tea lady told me so ! :*

CONFIRMED !

Haven't seen it myself, but understand yesterday's SCMP had an interesting article in it concerning HKE and Hainan Air. Old AT just can't get enough press. Am also hearing whispers in the restaurant about a HKE internal memo on the same subject, asking staff not to talk about things. How nuts is that, you put out an internal notice and then turn around and blab your face off to the newspaper!!!!! :confused:

re: trouble at the top
 

Badapple ,
You may be right there. a CX F/O friend of mine told me he was recently flying with a certain check capt.( a well known opportunist) soon to retire who has been approached for the job. Damage control ? :ouch:

Latest, HNA group will turn HKE to become an airfreight carrier!!:ok:

Sparky (besides demonstrating yet again HE belongs in a Snap On chest), continues to miss the point. So now we are to believe the current HKE CP is the source of your woes Sparky??? My son, it's time you stepped back, waaaaaaaaaay back and took in the BIG picture. Your (if you really do work there) CP is simply having his strings tugged by someone else. Go figure who that might be.

Still curious how a new company can set up so much uncertainty? I suggest you become familar with your company's org chart and take a look at the name on top. If what I hear about your bossman is correct, HKE will have a sh!tload of them (org charts that is)!!!!!

My latest intel still suggests a HKE machine will be sent over to Macau in the not too distant future. Who knows, maybe I'll be the one saying I told you so. :E

Enough is enough
 

Ok, Sparky et al......pick up your dummies and stop wasting time with the chirlish comments.

Listen up.

About a year ago I made my first post on this thread. In fact it was I who first labelled one of the long since gone participants a eunuch. Why? Simple:

A eunuch thinks he knows how it is done,

He sees it happening all around him,

But....he just can't do it himself...

This analogy applies to many of the actors in this shortlived fantasy called HKE. The lead actor being, of course, the little man at the top.

Back to my point... My purpose in contributing to this thread was in the hope of warning wannabes not to jump in with rose colored glasses but to see it as it really is; an opportunity to MAYBE get a rating and some experience. Not to expect a longterm and rewarding career. I remember one starry eyed contributor telling us that he wanted to 'pursue the dream'. Well, damn right it was a dream. Maybe more of a nightmare for many already that have decided that enough is enough.

Much to my amusement, and I am sure others, Sparkles is already telling us that "I told you so" . I only hope that he will exhibit the same humility when he informs us that he has also Fedexed his uniform back to head office. As far as changing CP's.....c'mon, do you really believe that? My learned friend Omnipotent is unrelenting in his attempts to instruct less experienced people in the ways of the management. Pilots are seen as bus drivers in this neck of the woods, and the cp rates very low on the food chain.

Over and out

I believe that the guys at HKE have been ordered to keep their mouths shut. :}

Get out of the gutter
 

I continue to be amazed at how quickly people will resort to abusive language and childish outbursts.

By all means state your opinion; you are also welcome to criticise mine, but try and put yourself in your mother's shoes when you start to type. How ashamed do you think she would be if she knew how quickly her son or daughter had descended into the gutter.

I have never said anything on this site that I am ashamed of, or that is any way abusive.

Clean up your act or else I will be forced to come over to HK and wash your mouths out with soap.

My point.........HKE will always be, a smelting pot of low morale and dissention, resulting in a flight department with a massive turnover and a constant battleground between management and pilots.

So far I have been close to the mark.

Over to you Omnipotent

So I wonder how many will be requesting days off in early June????

Ha Ha......

But you can work for less flying a BIGGER machine!

:ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :D :D :D

Badapple to the gutter
 

Well, you guys might want to read this quickly. It seems that mentioning the truth or any logic, will get your post ERASED by the moderator. Thank you. :ok:

Badapple with Impotent(ance), you guys are worse than us, we work here, we have a reason to bitch and moan. What about you guys. It seems like you guys need to get laid.

You say all this amazing stuff about HKE, we really don't care about you opinion, and Oh ya, come and wash our mouths out, funny part is you might be leaving your medical here though. Ha Ha. :} :}

All HKE Pilots, I want to start a list that we can all add to:
Topic what we think of Badapple and Impotent: (Let me START):D

1. Queers
2. Waste of time (to put it lightly) :mad:
3. .................

Come on boys.....

Badapple to the gutter
 

Well, you guys might want to read this quickly. It seems that mentioning the truth or any logic, will get your post ERASED by the moderator. Thank you. :ok:

Badapple with Impotent(ance), you guys are worse than us, we work here, we have a reason to bitch and moan. What about you guys. It seems like you guys need to get laid.

You say all this amazing stuff about HKE, we really don't care about you opinion, and Oh ya, come and wash our mouths out, funny part is you might be leaving your medical here though. Ha Ha. :} :}

All HKE Pilots, I want to start a list that we can all add to:
Topic what we think of Badapple and Impotent: (Let me START):D

1. Queers
2. Waste of time (to put it lightly) :mad:
3. .................

Come on boys.....

Outstanding maturity
 

At this point I am convinced that Sparkplugs really is a good windup. As I said before, I will not wallow in the gutter with others but offer this piece of advice:

'It is better for one to remain silent and have people think that you are a fool than open your mouth and remove all doubt...'

And please, spare us all the schoolyard antics.......any more childish outbursts will be dealt with by the moderators as in the past.

You have been in this part of the world for a very short time and have a long, long way to go before understanding even the basics of life and work in Asia.

I suspect that your tour will be relatively short....

Reasonable
 

Eco,

You mssed the point. My warnings have been directed, not to you, but to the wannabes.

As far as bitching amongst yourselves.......exactly my point.

My work here is done.


Keep your head down.......don't get involved in the politics..........fly safe

And another one gone, and another one gone, another one bites the dust..........? :oh:

With a name like Freddy, it could only be one person!!!!...

No news on any more tech crew leaving!!!:ok:

No news on any more tech crew leaving!!!:ok:[/quote]

Don't be too sure, it could be me ....... stooges ! :p

You will get a few more after the Dragonair interviews!

Don't think many will be doing that. Why jump into a fire when you're in a perfectly good frying pan?.

HKE Pilot Attrition
 

CRA
 

Is HK express the same company as Cr Airways?

tomcat21

No. it's the poor cousin :{

I lived in Townsville for three years and you better take the refuellers advice as I have done on many occasions:}
If you are single you can maybe survive on the money, otherwise you are better off in Aus flying for a regional! That is money wise. If you just want to fly a jet then go for it!
Up to the individual but I wouldnt class it as a career airline.
Good luck to all:ok:

Another day in paradise.... NOT!
 

:= Anyone with a remote interest in this "outfit " would be well advised to read all the posts on this thread carefully. The Townsville refueller is correct. Ask yourself why most are trying to leave and resignations are on going. All is not what is being presented at interview , there is nothing on the table but a stale fish sandwich and plenty of spin from a dubious c.p. :mad: .

Haveyou seen...
 

Hi, guys
:ooh: Have you checked Rishworth's site for 170 crew??
Is that a better choice??

Misnomer
 

Pinkflaps,

Should not your handle be Pi*s flaps ? :p

CAUTION
 

Pink Flaps , Hey, they must be using the Hong Kong Express model on how to win friends and influence people. But somehow I doubt it , pilots rated on orphaned aircraft are in far too much demand (sic) , just ask Embraer. By the way , if you are a girl pilot don't bother applying to HKE , the chief pilot only likes boy pilots.:(

mythbuster

You are TOO funny man!!!! :D

can anyone tell me , is hongkong express hiring pilots ?

this week they hired the pilots laid off from Metrojet. Good to see the boys wont be on the streets too long.

Hke
 

Just talked to one of my buddies at HKe......

They have 32 pilots and only 4 aircraft. Money is slow as their aircraft is never full with pax ! I guess the answer is not good until the situation improves !

I know it's difficult to get the facts right but the planes are ocasionally full however the pax load really fluctuates. As far as the new guys concerned I think they'll be happy to have a job and a paycheck.

So can anyone shed any light on the ad placed for B737NG Captains and F/O's on Friday with HKE? Pay, conditions, allowances, routes? Are things still as bad as they seem given whats has been posted earlier or are things getting better?:confused:

HeliExpress??
 

Hi, anybody knows how's it going with the chopper boys, is it just as bad as with you guys? Does HE and HKE share the same managers? Sorry to post thread here but don't seem to get any replies thru' Rotorheads.:rolleyes:

HE, HKE, Heli Hong Kong, East Asia Airlines - all the same company. The Hong Kong based helicopter side of the business was closed down at the end of 2005. Macau based operation still runs the S76's between Macau, Hong Kong and Shenzhen.

Could it be that they pay the pilots so little that they could not afford to live in Hong Kong and had to move to Macau?:{ :ugh:

Um, actually no. The S76 operation (East Asia Airlines) has always been based in Macau. The Hong Kong operation (Heli Hong Kong/ Heli Express) was always based in Hong Kong. No-one moved anywhere.

Sorry, just joking. Actually I'm a rotorhead working in Africa on a 6/6 weeks rotation and I'm exploring the possibilities of spending more time with family on a permanent base in Asia; that is without taking a paycut, if you catch my drift.:E

So will somebody please let me know what's the deal for rotorheads in HeliExpress,... pay, allowances, benefits, etc, etc. Will the contract ensure a decent life for an expat family in Macau with some leftovers for savings?:ugh: Do they offer type rating training?