Skill Test in India before Conversion of Licence
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If you want to do only single engine checks in India then first you:
1. must ensure your canadian CPL says SMEL (single engine multi engine land).
2. You have 6 months from the date of your 1st check flight (day/night/ir) on multi engine to submit your documents for conversion with DGCA.
3. You need RTR and FRTOL prior to check flights in India.
*for IR issue on ME you need to have group1 on your canada cpl. else you can do IR check in India.
1. must ensure your canadian CPL says SMEL (single engine multi engine land).
2. You have 6 months from the date of your 1st check flight (day/night/ir) on multi engine to submit your documents for conversion with DGCA.
3. You need RTR and FRTOL prior to check flights in India.
*for IR issue on ME you need to have group1 on your canada cpl. else you can do IR check in India.
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three.green ok,so if i get SMEL in my canadian cpl den i give IR check on single here in india,will IR be endorsed on my DGCA licence,if so i would be reaaly happy but
in order to give IR check in india do i need to hav IR already endorsed on my foreign licence(canadian).if yes will my IR from usa be automatically get converted to canadian cpl, by me giving the conversion xam,infact i havt given any IR written in canada? waiting for your reply three green thnx
in order to give IR check in india do i need to hav IR already endorsed on my foreign licence(canadian).if yes will my IR from usa be automatically get converted to canadian cpl, by me giving the conversion xam,infact i havt given any IR written in canada? waiting for your reply three green thnx
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If u do ur IR check in India then u will get IR on that plane. If want IR on multi then u have to do IR check on multi as well, unless u already hold foreign IR on same acft. No you don't need IR on foreign licence to do IR check in India.
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hey dude thnx for d reply,i wish i could get d same endorsement as u said but i had a word wid tc govt they said i will be gettin only SEL if i had PAID xtra 30$ i would hav got d SEMEL endorsement
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Can we do part of the 15hours recency in India? I had done my 15hours in Canada but around 5hours (including some Instrument time) has lapsed due to RTR and FRTOL which took longer than I had thought. Would DGCA create an issue on this?
Thanks
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yup without any worries as long as u hav INDIAN RT and FRTOL u can do all ur checks and all ur recurrency flights in india,bdw dude hw much time did it take u to get ur RTR(P) and FRTOL coz am gonna apply for it soon JUST waiting for my CANADIAN CPL licence to come.
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Thanks Bud, My RTR(P) took little more than 2months, still waiting for FRTOL tho. If you can go to Delhi make frequent visits to WPC you can get it sooner, phone calls doesn't really help much they still end up taking their sweet time.
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Dont wait for your Canadian CPL, apply for your RTR(P) if you have your Canadian RT and other relevant documents. You can mail them your canada cpl once you have it, WPC wont reject your application they will just list it as a shortfall.
PS - TC sends your booklet in a regular mail so it will take a while.
PS - TC sends your booklet in a regular mail so it will take a while.
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aaahhhh man i wish i could get this info bit earlier
,am like almost to get my cpl licence and its been 2months since am waiting for it,so i guess i should wait for it and submit in one shot,
,am like almost to get my cpl licence and its been 2months since am waiting for it,so i guess i should wait for it and submit in one shot,
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Hello everyone can anybody help me here i hav a question abt do i hav to give specific paper in india,
my initial training training was dne in usa and for commercial i flew DA42
my recency was dne in canada i converted my usa licence to canada and flew C152 and PA34 and took chek out. these two ac i never flew earlier in usa.
here in india i want to do my skill test in c152.so my question is do i hav to give c152 specific paper and also for pa34 if i want to endorse it on my indian licence
my initial training training was dne in usa and for commercial i flew DA42
my recency was dne in canada i converted my usa licence to canada and flew C152 and PA34 and took chek out. these two ac i never flew earlier in usa.
here in india i want to do my skill test in c152.so my question is do i hav to give c152 specific paper and also for pa34 if i want to endorse it on my indian licence
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A warning to those converting their licenses
On 17th Sept 2013 the DGCA had come out with a seemingly innocuous circular regarding the issue of Student Pilot Licenses
http://www.dgca.nic.in/circular/ftlc3_2013.pdf
Prior to giving skill test in India you need to get an SPL issued on the basis of which you are allowed to fly an aircraft in India in order to do the skill tests
An important point in this circular is that if you want to do skill test on an aircraft that is not endorsed on your foreign license then you need to first pass the DGCA tech specific exam for the same
For FAA license holders this is interpreted as saying if you did your Commercial Checkride on one particular aircraft ( the Beech Duchess for eg ) and now you want the PA 34 on the DGCA license then you need to first pass the PA 34 tech specific exam conducted by the DGCA
Same way if you only have a multi commercial on the foreign license but want single commercial on the DGCA one then you need to first pass the tech specific for the same
Please keep this mind before applying for or doing any skill test in India or abroad
P.S : There is a new school in India for those looking to do skill test on the PA 34 or C152
FAA ::
On 17th Sept 2013 the DGCA had come out with a seemingly innocuous circular regarding the issue of Student Pilot Licenses
http://www.dgca.nic.in/circular/ftlc3_2013.pdf
Prior to giving skill test in India you need to get an SPL issued on the basis of which you are allowed to fly an aircraft in India in order to do the skill tests
An important point in this circular is that if you want to do skill test on an aircraft that is not endorsed on your foreign license then you need to first pass the DGCA tech specific exam for the same
For FAA license holders this is interpreted as saying if you did your Commercial Checkride on one particular aircraft ( the Beech Duchess for eg ) and now you want the PA 34 on the DGCA license then you need to first pass the PA 34 tech specific exam conducted by the DGCA
Same way if you only have a multi commercial on the foreign license but want single commercial on the DGCA one then you need to first pass the tech specific for the same
Please keep this mind before applying for or doing any skill test in India or abroad
P.S : There is a new school in India for those looking to do skill test on the PA 34 or C152
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I always thought it went without saying that one needed to possess an SPL before being allowed to do their checks in India. The SPL can be issued by the Chief Instructor of the school, but you need to have your FRTOL and passed your DGCA theory papers before they can issue you one(for guys converting their licenses)
@lonelypilot
With regards to your scenario, you can avoid having to take the Technical Specific exam in India for the PA-34 if you have done a technical test in Canada. You just need to show them proof that you have taken a tech test and achieved a score greater than 70%. I don't know how exactly tech tests are done in Canada, but for eg in the US, all tech tests were done in school. It is not as big a deal over there as it is in India. All we had to do was do one of those tests, get it corrected by an instructor, put it in a sealed envelope and submit it to the DGCA. This way would be way more convenient than having to take the tech specific exam in India. I'm not sure how it would work for single engine rating. You may be able to do the same thing(i.e get the tech test done in Canada for the C152).
With regards to your recency requirements, your PA-34 requirements should be fine since you've done the 10 hours and split it in the way the DGCA requires you to. My only query is if you have only done your 6 month recency in the C152, that is the plane you want endorsed on your license. But have you done your 300 NM cross country(5 year requirement) on the DA-20? If I'm not mistaken, I think the 300NM, 250NM, 120Nm, day, night and IR checks have to be done on the same model of airplane. So if you have done your 300 XC on the DA-20 and the rest of your currency flights on the C152, then it might be an issue. Anybody may feel free to correct me, but this is what I understand of the conversion process.
@lonelypilot
With regards to your scenario, you can avoid having to take the Technical Specific exam in India for the PA-34 if you have done a technical test in Canada. You just need to show them proof that you have taken a tech test and achieved a score greater than 70%. I don't know how exactly tech tests are done in Canada, but for eg in the US, all tech tests were done in school. It is not as big a deal over there as it is in India. All we had to do was do one of those tests, get it corrected by an instructor, put it in a sealed envelope and submit it to the DGCA. This way would be way more convenient than having to take the tech specific exam in India. I'm not sure how it would work for single engine rating. You may be able to do the same thing(i.e get the tech test done in Canada for the C152).
With regards to your recency requirements, your PA-34 requirements should be fine since you've done the 10 hours and split it in the way the DGCA requires you to. My only query is if you have only done your 6 month recency in the C152, that is the plane you want endorsed on your license. But have you done your 300 NM cross country(5 year requirement) on the DA-20? If I'm not mistaken, I think the 300NM, 250NM, 120Nm, day, night and IR checks have to be done on the same model of airplane. So if you have done your 300 XC on the DA-20 and the rest of your currency flights on the C152, then it might be an issue. Anybody may feel free to correct me, but this is what I understand of the conversion process.
