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Just curious...has anyone has heard what is going on in regards to interviews, or hiring? Are they planning any defo's? When might they be hiring and what kind of mins. are they looking for? Thanks in advance.
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I have all traditional CP/DR questions. This interview is different. It is a one day process, with a general interview in the am, a tech interview in the pm, and then a sim and cocktail party..1 Day.
I was curious if anyone had anymore detail..
I was curious if anyone had anymore detail..
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Hi Guys, have the company spelt out the package they are offering you? Before you waste your time going to the interview it is only $5400 FO and $10000 US/month captain, no accommodation, travel, schooling etc. You will not be employed by Dragonair but by a company called Flight Crew Services (HK).
There is also an IFALPA hiring ban for these positions, you would be better off joining Dragonair mainline where you would be most welcome. I do not wish to dampen your career aspirations but this is really not a good deal which is why talks between the DPA and the company have broken off. There is now legal action pending and contract compliance continues.
Think very carefully, ask questions and make your own mind up!
There is also an IFALPA hiring ban for these positions, you would be better off joining Dragonair mainline where you would be most welcome. I do not wish to dampen your career aspirations but this is really not a good deal which is why talks between the DPA and the company have broken off. There is now legal action pending and contract compliance continues.
Think very carefully, ask questions and make your own mind up!
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I am going for mine on the 7th, most of my mates are 8th and 9th.
As for questions, I am just reviewing the XYZ type of questions. Currently flying B743.
FLY747, We were all mailed the COS. They are in line with most other operators in the world. I applied for mainline DA, but this is there offer; My choice is to reject it (and NEVER be considered for Dragon again) or see where it takes me. That simple.
I am going for mine on the 7th, most of my mates are 8th and 9th.
As for questions, I am just reviewing the XYZ type of questions. Currently flying B743.
FLY747, We were all mailed the COS. They are in line with most other operators in the world. I applied for mainline DA, but this is there offer; My choice is to reject it (and NEVER be considered for Dragon again) or see where it takes me. That simple.
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Plasma, I hope you get what you want and that you do not become too disillusioned when you find yourself working with guys on a much better package than you. I hope you then take your shiny -400 rating elsewhere and get the pay you deserve. There can be no bond in HKG so there will be nothing to stop you leaving. Good luck.
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If you contravene an IFALPA Ban, are you a scab? If so, this could offset the advantage of running with a 747 endorsement.
Genuine and non-nasty question BTW. But all should give it some thought if it is the case.
Genuine and non-nasty question BTW. But all should give it some thought if it is the case.
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Originally Posted by And Then
If you contravene an IFALPA Ban, are you a scab? If so, this could offset the advantage of running with a 747 endorsement.
Genuine and non-nasty question BTW. But all should give it some thought if it is the case.
Genuine and non-nasty question BTW. But all should give it some thought if it is the case.
A. I am not nor have I ever been a IFALPA Pilot
B. Its not my battle. If the Dragon pilots there dont like it, then they need to act themselves..Its not up to prospective new hires to fight there battle.
C. Guys were hired during the CX ban.. where are they now? Happily flying away at CX
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HH, Thanks buddy much apprciated!
Plasma, Well answered.
It is not the new hire's battle rather then btwn KA's pilots and management. If I were successful I will certainly accept the offer of employment. I have noting to compare with, this will be a big step for me to progress my career to the top.
A few friends of mine got in CX during the ban and they are happily flying and experience no troubles or problems.
Plasma, Well answered.
It is not the new hire's battle rather then btwn KA's pilots and management. If I were successful I will certainly accept the offer of employment. I have noting to compare with, this will be a big step for me to progress my career to the top.
A few friends of mine got in CX during the ban and they are happily flying and experience no troubles or problems.
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This is a different situation to the CX case, you are not being offered a job in KA but with another company on far worse COS. It is intended that new FOs and DECs take promotion and advancement opportunities from KA pilots.
You will not be on the Dragonair seniority.
You will not be able to join the Pilots Association.
You will not happily fly for Dragonair in the future because that is not what you are joining.
You are not being asked to fight our battle, you are being asked to stay out of it.
There are many places where an IFALPA ban does matter and that could well affect your employment chances in the future.
Just make sure you know all the facts and consequences before you make your decision.
You will not be on the Dragonair seniority.
You will not be able to join the Pilots Association.
You will not happily fly for Dragonair in the future because that is not what you are joining.
You are not being asked to fight our battle, you are being asked to stay out of it.
There are many places where an IFALPA ban does matter and that could well affect your employment chances in the future.
Just make sure you know all the facts and consequences before you make your decision.
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Originally Posted by Fly747
This is a different situation to the CX case, you are not being offered a job in KA but with another company on far worse COS. It is intended that new FOs and DECs take promotion and advancement opportunities from KA pilots.
You will not be on the Dragonair seniority.
You will not be able to join the Pilots Association.
You will not happily fly for Dragonair in the future because that is not what you are joining.
You are not being asked to fight our battle, you are being asked to stay out of it.
There are many places where an IFALPA ban does matter and that could well affect your employment chances in the future.
Just make sure you know all the facts and consequences before you make your decision.
You will not be on the Dragonair seniority.
You will not be able to join the Pilots Association.
You will not happily fly for Dragonair in the future because that is not what you are joining.
You are not being asked to fight our battle, you are being asked to stay out of it.
There are many places where an IFALPA ban does matter and that could well affect your employment chances in the future.
Just make sure you know all the facts and consequences before you make your decision.
I have no doubt KA is going to change all the positions over to the nez crewing company and reduce wages. You can stay or go, but unless you are unified - which CX couldn't pull off, and nor could you more recently- and ALL walk off the job, you are powerless.
Would I prefer the C.O.S that you lot have, absolutely. I wet myself over it. Is it available? NO;
Is I told Doris I could not accept an interview due to BAN, would I ever get one for mainline? NO
B747 is not an upgrade. Its an airplane.
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Plasma I am not against you I am for you. I am for you joining Dragonair and getting decent conditions, there are jobs and interviews ongoing for the Airbus. Tell Doris you want HKG base and not the commuting contract.
There is legal action pending which may affect you in the future.
The sacked guys got their jobs back, the DPA worked for them.
All I want is for you to get your facts right and not barge in blindly.
There is legal action pending which may affect you in the future.
The sacked guys got their jobs back, the DPA worked for them.
All I want is for you to get your facts right and not barge in blindly.
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[B]B747[B],
Would you be kind enough to enlighten me with the actual facts of the disbpute along with the Pro's and Con's of takinbg up this posting with KA, I really want to know?
From you post it and all those in favour of the ban, it looks like the new comers (like myself and others) are most likely the victims of some one sided braw between thew pilots and the KA management.
It all comes down to it that everyone needed to make a living. If a job offer come along with better then the pay and benefits I am currently on, one will without hesitation take the offer. Do you all agree? Look at CX, SIA, HKE, BA etc new comers joined at a lower pay grade. CX from "A - C or D" pay grade. It is all economics folks!
Would you be kind enough to enlighten me with the actual facts of the disbpute along with the Pro's and Con's of takinbg up this posting with KA, I really want to know?
From you post it and all those in favour of the ban, it looks like the new comers (like myself and others) are most likely the victims of some one sided braw between thew pilots and the KA management.
It all comes down to it that everyone needed to make a living. If a job offer come along with better then the pay and benefits I am currently on, one will without hesitation take the offer. Do you all agree? Look at CX, SIA, HKE, BA etc new comers joined at a lower pay grade. CX from "A - C or D" pay grade. It is all economics folks!