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Forum: Rumours & News
27th May 2012, 23:09
Replies: 456
Views: 211,447
Posted By Ice-bore

jurassicjockey, the information you are providing...

jurassicjockey, the information you are providing here is incorrect. The fluid will have failed at this stage and a further de-icing/anti-icing treatment will be required. Please see posts 331 and...
Forum: Rumours & News
20th Apr 2012, 22:24
Replies: 456
Views: 211,447
Posted By Ice-bore

Yes, where the aircraft has been anti-iced with a...

Yes, where the aircraft has been anti-iced with a Type II or IV fluid. I'm not a chemist but I believe this takes place due to chemical action rather than magic.

Due to the thickening agent...
Forum: Rumours & News
20th Apr 2012, 15:40
Replies: 456
Views: 211,447
Posted By Ice-bore

This is a totally incorrect and misleading...

This is a totally incorrect and misleading statement which, in my opinion, should be removed before the less well informed start to believe it's true..!!

The glycol present in the anti-icing fluid...
Forum: Rumours & News
19th Apr 2012, 22:17
Replies: 456
Views: 211,447
Posted By Ice-bore

AirRabbit wrote: Excellent point...

AirRabbit wrote:



Excellent point AirRabbit, by including the word 'adhering' the regulators are adding a degree of ambiguity to what should be a very simple and clear message here.

It's...
Forum: Tech Log
23rd Dec 2011, 21:51
Replies: 18
Views: 12,983
Posted By Ice-bore

The post 'Air Florida' mod, to enable the 737 to...

The post 'Air Florida' mod, to enable the 737 to use WAI on the ground, was rejected at the time by a number of European Airlines, due to the effect that the hot surface (103 deg. C on the ground)...
Forum: Flight/Ground Ops, Crewing and Dispatch
10th Dec 2010, 17:51
Replies: 35
Views: 10,687
Posted By Ice-bore

. The FAA and Transport Canada sponsor the...

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The FAA and Transport Canada sponsor the holdover time testing of Type II and IV de-/anti-icing fluids and publish holdover time tables for each individual fluid, on an annual basis. These are...
Forum: Flight/Ground Ops, Crewing and Dispatch
9th Dec 2010, 00:17
Replies: 35
Views: 10,687
Posted By Ice-bore

Looking at Mr. G’s original question and the...

Looking at Mr. G’s original question and the various answers comments provided to date, I’d like to offer some clarification on a number of the points made.

Firstly, under the conditions referred...
Forum: Flight/Ground Ops, Crewing and Dispatch
17th Jul 2010, 17:42
Replies: 57
Views: 12,939
Posted By Ice-bore

According to Menzies it's not a rumour. ...

According to Menzies it's not a rumour.

Menzies Aviation - Press Releases (http://www.menziesaviation.com/item/detail/p/3/id/168/ref/Lufthansa-and-bmi-select-Menzies-for-GH-operations-at-LHR)
Forum: Rumours & News
17th Oct 2009, 18:27
Replies: 49
Views: 20,292
Posted By Ice-bore

Kilfrost RDF (Rapid De-icing Fluid) is a cold...

Kilfrost RDF (Rapid De-icing Fluid) is a cold de-icing fluid, often used on GA aircraft. It doesn't meet SAE AMS 1424 (Type I fluid) or SAE AMS 1428 (Type II, III and IV fluid), so wouldn't be...
Forum: Tech Log
28th Feb 2007, 12:54
Replies: 35
Views: 6,056
Posted By Ice-bore

Interesting thread with some positive feedback to...

Interesting thread with some positive feedback to it.pilot737.

To answer the original question I believe that the procedure is floored, in that potential would still exist for the melted frost to...
Forum: Tech Log
10th Feb 2007, 07:58
Replies: 4
Views: 1,454
Posted By Ice-bore

"Quote: If it then begins to snow as you're on...

"Quote: If it then begins to snow as you're on your way to the holding point, am I right in thinking that if you've just been de-iced, you only have minimal protection against further contamination...
Forum: Tech Log
29th Dec 2006, 10:17
Replies: 11
Views: 2,679
Posted By Ice-bore

idg, It is assumed the Operator in question...

idg,

It is assumed the Operator in question did not appreciate that de-/anti-icing fluid applied to the aerodynamic surfaces of the aircraft is in itself a contaminant that will degrade...
Forum: Tech Log
28th Dec 2006, 15:14
Replies: 11
Views: 2,679
Posted By Ice-bore

A de-icing crew forgot to spray one wing

As this would have directly affected the safety of the aircraft; carry out a full investigation in order to identify the cause of the occurrence and take appropriate action to prevent/reduce the...
Forum: Tech Log
29th Nov 2006, 17:44
Replies: 12
Views: 2,455
Posted By Ice-bore

The simple answer is that prior to de-/anti-icing...

The simple answer is that prior to de-/anti-icing flaps/slats should be in the position specified by the aircraft manufacturer. Generally this will be in the retracted position, as this reduces the...
Forum: Tech Log
12th Nov 2006, 11:49
Replies: 36
Views: 6,141
Posted By Ice-bore

Not sure if applicable to all models but was...

Not sure if applicable to all models but was under the impression that the 737 wing TAI system can be used on the ground. Should an overheat condition exist the wing anti-ice ground thermal switch...
Forum: Tech Log
10th Nov 2006, 18:56
Replies: 36
Views: 6,141
Posted By Ice-bore

I believe that after the Washington crash in 1982...

I believe that after the Washington crash in 1982 Boeing modified the wing TAI system on 737 aircraft, to allow it to be used on the ground. However, while the L/E may be the most critical part of...
Forum: Tech Log
16th Mar 2006, 09:37
Replies: 9
Views: 2,002
Posted By Ice-bore

As I understand it the current fluid specs. allow...

As I understand it the current fluid specs. allow any fluid to be undyed (uncoloured), however, where a dyed fluid is required/specified it must be coloured as Bartender suggests.
Forum: Tech Log
2nd Mar 2006, 17:20
Replies: 6
Views: 1,895
Posted By Ice-bore

The FAA state on page 10 in FSAT 05-02, "..NOTE:...

The FAA state on page 10 in FSAT 05-02, "..NOTE: The FAA does not approve takeoff in conditions of moderate or heavy freezing rain."
Forum: Safety, CRM, QA & Emergency Response Planning
27th Jan 2006, 11:35
Replies: 5
Views: 1,425
Posted By Ice-bore

Following a number of high profile 'ground icing...

Following a number of high profile 'ground icing related' accidents that occurred during take-off in the 80's/early 90's, a lot of work was (and continues to be) carried out by the industry in order...
Forum: Tech Log
24th Jan 2006, 23:43
Replies: 15
Views: 2,246
Posted By Ice-bore

Not a particularly common occurrence but you can...

Not a particularly common occurrence but you can get frost/ice forming on both upper and lower wing surfaces at OAT's of up to +15 deg C and above, where sub-zero fuel is in direct contact with the...
Forum: Tech Log
17th Jan 2006, 21:14
Replies: 8
Views: 5,882
Posted By Ice-bore

Takeoff in ice pellets/heavy snow/with no HOT

There would appear to be two issues here. Firstly, are the designated aircraft surfaces free of frost, ice, slush and snow immediately prior to takeoff and secondly, has the aircraft been certified...
Forum: Safety, CRM, QA & Emergency Response Planning
13th Jan 2005, 12:13
Replies: 22
Views: 6,313
Posted By Ice-bore

safetypee raises a number of valid issues. With...

safetypee raises a number of valid issues. With regard to points 1 and 3, these areas are covered in the US and Canada by the FAA and Transport Canada, however, within Europe they still do not...
Forum: Tech Log
10th Oct 2004, 16:51
Replies: 24
Views: 17,803
Posted By Ice-bore

"Freezing Fog A suspension of numerous...

"Freezing Fog

A suspension of numerous minute water droplets which freezes upon impact with ground or other exposed objects, generally reducing the horizontal visibility at the earth's surface to...
Forum: Tech Log
6th Feb 2004, 00:27
Replies: 4
Views: 2,413
Posted By Ice-bore

Deicing fluids

Not aware of a definitive list of approved A/C de-/anti-icing fluids. However, Transport Canada do list the fluids that currently meet both the aerodynamic and anti-icing performance requirements,...
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