Take off with snow on wing
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That can only be Aeroflot, 'kings of snow and ice'.
Anyway, it's difficult to asses if it's just powder snow or snow with ice underneath. In our company this is not allowed. Takeoff with frost, ice, snow or other contaminents on critical surfaces, flight control or lifting surfaces are not permitted. All vents, inlets, control-wing surfaces and horizontal stabiliser must be free of any contaminents.
I would not feel safe as a pax seeing that much accumulation. Never seen it before either where a crew actually departed. Very little to gain by not de-icing and a lot to loose. First thing that came to mind was the 737 taking a bath in the Patomac...
Anyway, a sad day for aviation to see a genuine operator do this.
Anyway, it's difficult to asses if it's just powder snow or snow with ice underneath. In our company this is not allowed. Takeoff with frost, ice, snow or other contaminents on critical surfaces, flight control or lifting surfaces are not permitted. All vents, inlets, control-wing surfaces and horizontal stabiliser must be free of any contaminents.I would not feel safe as a pax seeing that much accumulation. Never seen it before either where a crew actually departed. Very little to gain by not de-icing and a lot to loose. First thing that came to mind was the 737 taking a bath in the Patomac...
Anyway, a sad day for aviation to see a genuine operator do this.
Had a colleague climb onto the wing of 727 when the crew weren't going to de ice. Arrested and after two days was freed from the clutches of the FAA due to diplomatic efforts. Banned from the usa. My next trip there I watched a snowstorm detatch inself from a 747 on rotation!
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Anyway, it's difficult to asses if it's just powder snow or snow with ice underneath.
I would not feel safe as a pax seeing that much accumulation.
I would get the crew to disembark me and then get a nice chat with those idiots upfront.
I would get the crew to disembark me and then get a nice chat with those idiots upfront.
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That's quite a statement coming from someone who's telling others to just shut up and accept it WRT the EU's new licensing scheme.
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I don't know which airlines, and i would like to know may be this takeoff after antiicing procedures within hold over time?
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I don't know which airlines, and i would like to know may be this takeoff after antiicing procedures within hold over time?
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Read the response from Aeroflot in the comments under the video on youtube, says it all.
Many local Capt's operating in airlines in the former Soviet Bloc still seem to think this is OK. It is fine when there is a Scandi FO sitting next to him who has the cojones to say, "Er sorry Vlad, this isn't on", but with 2 of them up front
If I was in the back (well, with Aeroflot I wouldn't be anyhow ) I would make enough fuss (once we taxied past any remote de-icing available) sufficient enough to be thrown off, up to & including opening an exit/blowing a slide, I kid you not.
No way to have your life snuffed out by these reckless vodka-guzzling bar-stewards.
Many local Capt's operating in airlines in the former Soviet Bloc still seem to think this is OK. It is fine when there is a Scandi FO sitting next to him who has the cojones to say, "Er sorry Vlad, this isn't on", but with 2 of them up front
If I was in the back (well, with Aeroflot I wouldn't be anyhow
) I would make enough fuss (once we taxied past any remote de-icing available) sufficient enough to be thrown off, up to & including opening an exit/blowing a slide, I kid you not.No way to have your life snuffed out by these reckless vodka-guzzling bar-stewards.
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I am completly lost for words. Whoever took that video is very lucky they are not dead.
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Those who are sending this video to airbus etc also consider sending it to codeshare partners and sky team as I am sure they will not want anything to do with this operation especially if it is condoned by the airline itself. All info found on wikipedia.