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Forum: Terms and Endearment
27th Jun 2020, 17:46
Replies: 2,093
Views: 1,852,961
Posted By BetterByBoat

PC767 Amateur hour is appropriate when...

PC767

Amateur hour is appropriate when dealing with Unite and Balpa; the management might be acting out the script from dumb and dumber but they still have some way to go to reach the utter...
Forum: Cabin Crew
30th Jun 2017, 19:24
Replies: 128
Views: 63,136
Posted By BetterByBoat

No damage to the brand other than in the...

No damage to the brand other than in the misguided minds of the cabin crew who were striking. If you can get more elsewhere then why not move onwards and upwards?
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
28th May 2017, 06:57
Replies: 634
Views: 303,366
Posted By BetterByBoat

Why is everyone being so quick to accept the...

Why is everyone being so quick to accept the official line? A power supply failure taking down multiple systems across multiple data centers. Possible but it wouldn't be at the top of my list of...
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
7th May 2011, 10:22
Replies: 993
Views: 170,080
Posted By BetterByBoat

"But if you had just a job would'nt you be...

"But if you had just a job would'nt you be looking to get out and into something you enjoy? Keeping a job that you dislike and making everyone around you miserable is a mindset I just don't get...
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
2nd Apr 2011, 18:35
Replies: 993
Views: 170,080
Posted By BetterByBoat

Sorry Litebulbs but any professional who is...

Sorry Litebulbs but any professional who is grumpy with customers because they have a grudge against their boss isn't a professional. Perhaps that is part of the problem - they just aren't suited to...
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
30th Mar 2011, 16:32
Replies: 993
Views: 170,080
Posted By BetterByBoat

A couple of points that I'd disagree with...

A couple of points that I'd disagree with Richard:

"Cant help but feel that ghastly behaviour by BA staff, such as the disgusting comparrison by BASSA to Jewish war dead can only be tolerated to a...
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
28th Mar 2011, 17:35
Replies: 993
Views: 170,080
Posted By BetterByBoat

I have friends who have refused to fly BA since...

I have friends who have refused to fly BA since the strike votes in 2009 on the basis they don't know what will happen. I have continued to fly BA along with MPN11 but I'm not sure we are in the...
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
8th Mar 2011, 21:56
Replies: 1,094
Views: 165,938
Posted By BetterByBoat

What has changed?

Been away a while and the discussion seems to be the same ... having got it horribly wrong last time, I'll punt my incorrect thoughts out again:

1) If BA were going to sue Unite and sack strikers...
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
5th Feb 2011, 13:50
Replies: 1,094
Views: 165,938
Posted By BetterByBoat

More than happy to agree to disagree ... that is...

More than happy to agree to disagree ... that is what debate is all about. :ok:

One point - please don't think it is only cabin crew that have been at the center of this for the last 2 years. The...
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
5th Feb 2011, 13:03
Replies: 1,094
Views: 165,938
Posted By BetterByBoat

I just don't believe that BA have gone through 14...

I just don't believe that BA have gone through 14 months of this dispute to settle now with little result other than thousands of embittered cabin crew (who have lost staff travel entitlements and...
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
5th Feb 2011, 12:35
Replies: 1,094
Views: 165,938
Posted By BetterByBoat

"It is not because BA want to sack crew" -...

"It is not because BA want to sack crew" - disagree. I don't believe BA want to sack all striking crew. But if Unite handed them the opportunity to sack the "ring leaders" \ key extremists then I...
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
5th Feb 2011, 12:30
Replies: 1,094
Views: 165,938
Posted By BetterByBoat

Perhaps I can turn the question around - how is...

Perhaps I can turn the question around - how is it in BAs interest to stop an unprotected strike now which will lead to a reballot and a protected strike in a couple of months (which will hit summer...
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
5th Feb 2011, 12:07
Replies: 1,094
Views: 165,938
Posted By BetterByBoat

"In other words, it's in BA's interest to have an...

"In other words, it's in BA's interest to have an unprotected strike and mass-produce P45s? Interesting hard-ball game."

BA have lost a huge amount of revenue over the last 14 months. So yes, I...
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
5th Feb 2011, 11:29
Replies: 1,094
Views: 165,938
Posted By BetterByBoat

Sorry AVFlyer but I don't agree with your...

Sorry AVFlyer but I don't agree with your assessment. I don't see how it benefits BA to stop this strike from occurring now. At present, Unite stand to be sued and any strikers BA want off the...
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
4th Feb 2011, 14:24
Replies: 1,094
Views: 165,938
Posted By BetterByBoat

Probably gone the same way as the other CCCP did...

Probably gone the same way as the other CCCP did in the early 90s. Disintegrated in a political and economic mess ....
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
3rd Feb 2011, 17:04
Replies: 45
Views: 5,657
Posted By BetterByBoat

Devil I want my nanny state back

"Is this Govt so desperate to raise money that they will do anything to get it? I'm truly appalled by this."

I know, it is ridiculous isn't it - asking people to pay for things they use. And...
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
24th Jan 2011, 11:51
Replies: 1,880
Views: 270,529
Posted By BetterByBoat

I guess there are really 2 disputes going on...

I guess there are really 2 disputes going on here:

1) With Cabin Crew which I suspect would never have started, or at least been resolved by now, if they were represented by TW \ Unite without...
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
24th Jan 2011, 11:12
Replies: 1,880
Views: 270,529
Posted By BetterByBoat

Moses30u ... I think pilots fly without the need...

Moses30u ... I think pilots fly without the need to go as VCC ... and I think they are better paid at the front of the plane than in the cabin. Other VCC fly because they want to end the BASSA...
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
24th Jan 2011, 09:57
Replies: 1,880
Views: 270,529
Posted By BetterByBoat

Sorry Moses30u - it is BASSAs refusal to...

Sorry Moses30u - it is BASSAs refusal to negotiate on existing T&Cs that has caused the rapid growth in Mixed Fleet. Yes, it would have come over time but mature discussion rather than "NO...
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
23rd Jan 2011, 15:08
Replies: 1,880
Views: 270,529
Posted By BetterByBoat

BA have no reason to get bogged down in such...

BA have no reason to get bogged down in such silliness - leave the playground antics to the strikers.

Judging by how they have played this so far, I suspect they will play a waiting game and let...
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
23rd Jan 2011, 10:27
Replies: 1,880
Views: 270,529
Posted By BetterByBoat

Is Duncan Holley, just Willie Walsh in disguise

Just a thought ... after all, have they ever been seen in the same room together? There seems to have been a very convenient arrangement where by DH stays in charge at BASSA while not working for BA....
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
23rd Jan 2011, 08:00
Replies: 1,880
Views: 270,529
Posted By BetterByBoat

I did post some time ago that I didn't buy into...

I did post some time ago that I didn't buy into the "Lemmings led by liars" argument with regards to striking crew but now I'm not so sure. Mildy Militant (yet somehow, totally deluded) has managed...
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
22nd Jan 2011, 17:21
Replies: 1,880
Views: 270,529
Posted By BetterByBoat

If we are playing the pedantic game then I'm...

If we are playing the pedantic game then I'm sorry NotLangley but this statement is 100% correct - "2560 members have left BASSA/Unite ..... ".

1557 have stayed with BA and...
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
21st Jan 2011, 19:38
Replies: 1,880
Views: 270,529
Posted By BetterByBoat

Not so sure with Unite - the relationship was...

Not so sure with Unite - the relationship was with TW, not LM. And TW has ultimately failed to deliver anyway. I think TW shaking hands and then washing them has already done the damage.

Hitting...
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
21st Jan 2011, 19:12
Replies: 1,880
Views: 270,529
Posted By BetterByBoat

The reason why BA (I think) will go to court is...

The reason why BA (I think) will go to court is to sue Unite for losses incurred on the basis that this strike is related to the last. And I think they will do this first before they take any action...
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
21st Jan 2011, 18:03
Replies: 1,880
Views: 270,529
Posted By BetterByBoat

Potentially this is worse for BASSA \ Unite than...

Potentially this is worse for BASSA \ Unite than a no vote. A no vote would have been embarressing but no more.

They now have little room for manuever other than to call a strike (especially as...
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
21st Jan 2011, 17:19
Replies: 1,880
Views: 270,529
Posted By BetterByBoat

Welcome along maeboyce - thought you were a BASSA...

Welcome along maeboyce - thought you were a BASSA spin merchant somehow juggling 5751 into 7500 ... :)

Hopefully CC can see light at the end of the tunnel. With BA better prepared than ever and...
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
21st Jan 2011, 16:19
Replies: 1,880
Views: 270,529
Posted By BetterByBoat

maeboyce - "more than 7500 cabin crew feel...

maeboyce - "more than 7500 cabin crew feel strongly enough about what is happening to vote to strike against their company"

.... where did you get these numbers from. It was 5751 who voted for...
Forum: Cabin Crew
21st Jan 2011, 15:31
Replies: 4,259
Views: 1,563,056
Posted By BetterByBoat

And SwissRef has also pointed out there that only...

And SwissRef has also pointed out there that only 56% of those balloted voted for strike action .... and a far lower number of cabin crew voted for action than last year.
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
21st Jan 2011, 15:23
Replies: 1,880
Views: 270,529
Posted By BetterByBoat

So in terms of numbers - fewer voted for strike...

So in terms of numbers - fewer voted for strike action this time than last - just happens that the numbers only add up to 7300 so a lot of members have gone awol or didn't vote.
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
21st Jan 2011, 08:59
Replies: 1,880
Views: 270,529
Posted By BetterByBoat

Sorry MPN but the tragedy will be if a small...

Sorry MPN but the tragedy will be if a small group of extremists continue to think they can hold the rest of the company to ransom. I don't buy into the idea that striking cabin crew are too stupid...
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
20th Jan 2011, 18:48
Replies: 1,880
Views: 270,529
Posted By BetterByBoat

Depending on how the courts interpret any...

Depending on how the courts interpret any potential strike, the really big winner could be BA. They might be able to get rid of a significant number of militant crew and get Unite to pay for the...
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
15th Jan 2011, 11:50
Replies: 1,880
Views: 270,529
Posted By BetterByBoat

But equally, why did so many BA cabin crew vote...

But equally, why did so many BA cabin crew vote for strike action in support of their union leaders and then not go on strike? This IA is not the result of BASSA \ CC89. It is the result of the...
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
12th Jan 2011, 16:39
Replies: 1,880
Views: 270,529
Posted By BetterByBoat

Sorry ChicoG but I disagree with this -...

Sorry ChicoG but I disagree with this - "straw-clutching BASSA mentality" ... I think it is indicative of the numbers of "straw clutching British Airways cabin crew". It is British Airways cabin...
Forum: Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
12th Jan 2011, 08:07
Replies: 1,880
Views: 270,529
Posted By BetterByBoat

Not sure how reissuing contracts will help - BA...

Not sure how reissuing contracts will help - BA have a proportion of cabin crew who are disgruntled, embittered (not sure about what) and deluded. Reissuning new contracts will hardly help any of...
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