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Forum: ATC Issues
25th Apr 2009, 18:20
Replies: 11,746
Views: 3,754,539
Posted By manny fred

just because an ATCO may not be present at an...

just because an ATCO may not be present at an interview doesn't mean that they have not been involved. i have been told that ATCO's across the whole of the compnay in both disciplines were used to...
Forum: ATC Issues
20th Apr 2009, 10:42
Replies: 39
Views: 5,495
Posted By manny fred

I am always amazed of the flexability that...

I am always amazed of the flexability that controllers have. We all stick to procedures and work the sector as they are designed for, but everytime you need help from an adjacent sector(weather etc),...
Forum: ATC Issues
20th Apr 2009, 10:34
Replies: 39
Views: 5,495
Posted By manny fred

Pretty much the same if there was a fire, except...

Pretty much the same if there was a fire, except you might have less time. Stop everything, coming to you, get rid of everything you have safely.
Forum: ATC Issues
20th Apr 2009, 10:12
Replies: 39
Views: 5,495
Posted By manny fred

Well you would immediatley stop all outbounds...

Well you would immediatley stop all outbounds getting airborne, phone all of the adjacent sectors ie french, manchester etc etc, and ensure that they dont handover anymore traffic(hold them, divert...
Forum: ATC Issues
15th Apr 2009, 15:42
Replies: 40
Views: 4,513
Posted By manny fred

another thing I agree entirely with that...

another thing

I agree entirely with that post. I always feel there is a "we were better than you when we were trainees" attitude, but I think that is human nature. They keep on saying school...
Forum: ATC Issues
15th Apr 2009, 14:45
Replies: 40
Views: 4,513
Posted By manny fred

Anotherthing. In all honesty I have not...

Anotherthing.

In all honesty I have not noticed the difference. Yes I sometimes think."they should know that", but I also know that when I was going through training the "older" ones used to say...
Forum: ATC Issues
15th Apr 2009, 11:13
Replies: 40
Views: 4,513
Posted By manny fred

All people who berate trainees should dust of...

All people who berate trainees should dust of there own daily training reports, and have a read through them, and then you will realise that you too were wet behind the ears and were not instantly...
Forum: ATC Issues
15th Apr 2009, 11:03
Replies: 40
Views: 4,513
Posted By manny fred

[QUOTE][ Must be getting on 20 years ago... I...

[QUOTE][
Must be getting on 20 years ago... I was the Air controller at Heathrow one evening when the boss brought up a charming young lady for a look around.... asked if she could listen in with...
Forum: ATC Issues
6th Apr 2009, 15:10
Replies: 2,329
Views: 434,778
Posted By manny fred

It is getting ridiculous now. It is April, and...

It is getting ridiculous now. It is April, and we are still non the wiser about our pay increase. Say they give us this figure of 4.8%, but dont backdate it, what is the actual increase. If it...
Forum: ATC Issues
31st Mar 2009, 19:55
Replies: 2,329
Views: 434,778
Posted By manny fred

like i said 95%.

like i said 95%.
Forum: ATC Issues
31st Mar 2009, 16:45
Replies: 2,329
Views: 434,778
Posted By manny fred

It means nothing to me

It means nothing to me
Forum: ATC Issues
31st Mar 2009, 13:56
Replies: 2,329
Views: 434,778
Posted By manny fred

I totally agree. I do come across some old...

I totally agree. I do come across some old timers, who are terribly bored and are chomping at the bit to help in any way they can. I am just responding to white harts comments:



and quite...
Forum: ATC Issues
31st Mar 2009, 13:37
Replies: 2,329
Views: 434,778
Posted By manny fred

Yes it is a purely ac point of view, but also...

Yes it is a purely ac point of view, but also rumblings from TC guys. Maybe it is a little unfair as on some sectors they have more to do. But on AC sectors, esp Central/south banks. I would say 95%...
Forum: ATC Issues
31st Mar 2009, 12:51
Replies: 2,329
Views: 434,778
Posted By manny fred

Only speaking on behalf of AC/TC here, but the...

Only speaking on behalf of AC/TC here, but the input of ATSAs over the years have dwindled, and to be perfectly honest, the amount of time I have sat with an ATSA who has read a book throughout the...
Forum: ATC Issues
30th Mar 2009, 11:14
Replies: 43
Views: 5,116
Posted By manny fred

2 years ago, NATS appeared in 'The Sunday Times...

2 years ago, NATS appeared in 'The Sunday Times Top 100 Companies to work for'.
Why is there a need to "bond the buggahs!!" ?


Less than 1 yr ago, pompey won the cup..how quickly times change.
Forum: ATC Issues
30th Mar 2009, 09:37
Replies: 11,746
Views: 3,754,539
Posted By manny fred

ABZ I see youre very young so I will take...

ABZ

I see youre very young so I will take that as an excuse.

I dont know what school is like nowadays, but if you are used to being spoonfed, you have a long way to go. Sure at the college...
Forum: ATC Issues
30th Mar 2009, 08:34
Replies: 11,746
Views: 3,754,539
Posted By manny fred

KELVIN. Are you for real. Most ATCOs look...

KELVIN.

Are you for real. Most ATCOs look at a radar, or monitor as you put it, every working day, and hopefully for the rest of their careers, and you who is applying for the job as an ATCO,...
Forum: ATC Issues
20th Mar 2009, 12:46
Replies: 2,329
Views: 434,778
Posted By manny fred

OK..Well why dont you explain why you feel you...

OK..Well why dont you explain why you feel you should be paid closer to a band 5 unit .Why is the banding system flawed. It is not an argument to say, I want more money, I deserve more money. We...
Forum: ATC Issues
20th Mar 2009, 12:34
Replies: 2,329
Views: 434,778
Posted By manny fred

I just assume that everyone is on the pay that...

I just assume that everyone is on the pay that NATS warrants acceptable. If it wasn't acceptable then noone would work there. The way I see it, it is human nature. It is human nature for a KK...
Forum: ATC Issues
20th Mar 2009, 12:07
Replies: 2,329
Views: 434,778
Posted By manny fred

Fair enough. To be honest I have no idea what a...

Fair enough. To be honest I have no idea what a band 1 2 3 or 4 unit is paid. If a band 1 unit suddenly became a band 3 unit then so be it, but my original argument is what would the rest of the...
Forum: ATC Issues
20th Mar 2009, 11:37
Replies: 2,329
Views: 434,778
Posted By manny fred

Not at all hootin. I have not got an arrogant...

Not at all hootin. I have not got an arrogant attitude about being on the top band. I am just looking at it from an air traffic point of view. Just because we all share the same job title, does not...
Forum: ATC Issues
20th Mar 2009, 10:58
Replies: 2,329
Views: 434,778
Posted By manny fred

I dont care who gets what, but some of the units...

I dont care who gets what, but some of the units you mention, dont work nights, dont do full afternoon shifts, or full weekends, people are able to validate in 4 or 5 months. Promotion to watch...
Forum: ATC Issues
20th Mar 2009, 10:21
Replies: 2,329
Views: 434,778
Posted By manny fred

Where does it stop though. Band 1 units probably...

Where does it stop though. Band 1 units probably feel they should be band 3. If band 3 units move to band 4, then band 1 units will want band 4. If band 1 then get band 4, the original band 3 will...
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