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Standby Scum 6th Dec 2019 13:45

Same LH Seat guy here:-

Toruk Macto 6th Dec 2019 14:23

Some real skills , my guess ex military or crop duster , highly unlikely to have been a MPL .

rog747 6th Dec 2019 15:32

He has very sharp creases in his very white smart shirts - no cowboy

Much better video here - hope you can all see it?
Or go to YouTube and watch it in widescreen there





gearlever 6th Dec 2019 16:30


Originally Posted by Standby Scum (Post 10633766)

What a cool guy, love it:)

Wycombe 6th Dec 2019 16:33


Originally Posted by Wycombe https://www.pprune.org/images/buttons/viewpost.gif
Love that the backing music features a certain Bruce Dickinson!
Brian Johnson.

That's about the only thing I feel qualified to comment on this thread.
Oh of course it is, but would have been much more relevant to have something from Bruce
(I think he did some hand-flying in a 72' in an episode of "Flying Heavy Metal")

pulse1 6th Dec 2019 17:50

It doesn't detract from the flying skills but doesn't anyone else find it odd that this particular maneuver appears to be filmed from inside the cockpit and from the ground?

sabenaboy 6th Dec 2019 17:54

It's simple:
- Any airline pilot who is NOT able to do that should not be in the cockpit.
- Any airline pilot who would do that with passengers in the back, should not be in that cockpit.

Climb150 6th Dec 2019 18:39

If passengers think a maneuver of some description will stop them getting shot out of the sky, they will gladly let you do it.

beardy 6th Dec 2019 18:57


Originally Posted by sabenaboy (Post 10633894)
It's simple:
- Any airline pilot who is NOT able to do that should not be in the cockpit.
- Any airline pilot who would do that with passengers in the back, should not be in that cockpit.

The presence of passengers is quite immaterial.

Sleeve Wing 6th Dec 2019 20:15


Originally Posted by sabenaboy (Post 10633894)
It's simple:
- Any airline pilot who is NOT able to do that should not be in the cockpit.
- Any airline pilot who would do that with passengers in the back, should not be in that cockpit.

I think it's mentioned at the beginning of the thread that he's flying a freighter.
I feel that a captain of that calibre, if he had pax on board, he would probably have done it at a slightly higher altitude.
That means of course that he would start his second approach further out on finals .....if he felt that the sea traffic in the bay was harmless ........
Never give 'em a second chance to hit you !

LookingForaJob, aiming point markings ?? (Recommended touchdown area....) Oh, never mind. Think perspective !
Can I suggest that you don't get technically involved in something you don't understand ?

Four Wings 6th Dec 2019 20:23

Been there...
In the mid 60s I used to fly regularly as a passenger on Aden Airways C47 (aka DC3) services in South Arabia (now Yemen). All dirt strips. They were mixed configuration, with removable seats, and always loaded to the gunwhales so seating v. cargo was always highly contentious.
I was the local Shell sales manager and used my privileged position as the sole supplier of fuel in the area to get a seat (the Aden Airways agent was also usually the Shell petrol station dealer).
On one occasion there was a real bust up at loading as all the seats were taken and a very angry Yemeni, in customary dress of futa, jambiya and .303 rifle tried to force his way on board, holding the cargo door so the steward couldn't close it. The pilot came down to help him, the stewrd pulled up the steps, the pilot slammed the door in place, went back to the cock[it and we took off.
But instead of climbing as usual, as soon as we had a couple of hundred feet under us he did a very hard turn, all the way round, till. 'Uh.uh. I thought .trouble a't'mill'.
Very,very low we lined up on the dirt strip, but I couldn't make out what was happening as we were still on full power it seemed. I was sitting up front and at over 100 knots and what felt like nought feet under us I suddenly saw the Yemeni flash under us. wildly waving his rifle but instinstively ducking as we passed over him.
So on to the next sector, probably a downwind at Lodar or some such.

750XL 6th Dec 2019 20:50

Captain Niel Steyl, he's an interesting history in aviation. Google it

OldnGrounded 6th Dec 2019 21:10


Originally Posted by 750XL (Post 10633982)
Captain Niel Steyl, he's an interesting history in aviation. Google it

Ah, that guy. Pilot for the Mark Thatcher-Simon Mann coup attempt in Equatorial Guinea. No wonder he's comfortable with that sort of flying.

Less Hair 6th Dec 2019 21:14

From 2005 to 2009 he has been active right here at pprune it seems:
https://www.pprune.org/african-aviat...e-baghdad.html

robdean 6th Dec 2019 22:55

This former Executive Outcomes pilot has posted several such stimulating excerpts of interesting days in the office, eg Malakal &c:
Niel Steyl - YouTube

krismiler 6th Dec 2019 23:32

Executive Outcomes was a "private security" company which used B727s in Angola under the guise of Ibis Air to fly their employees around. Recruitment was mainly from former South African military personnel, though foreigners were also taken on. Captain Niel Steyl's training, experience and ability would certainly make him the right man for this kind of work, I would be quite happy to be sitting in the cabin with him upfront if I had to get somewhere in a war zone.

I think he would have enough sense not to pull a stunt like that in regular airline flying.

foxile 6th Dec 2019 23:48

Seems all in a days work for him.


JanetFlight 6th Dec 2019 23:48

Wow...he is a Master in late Go arounds followed by very sharp, tight and low 360's,,,,Rock on Captain ...check this one out \\m//


JanetFlight 6th Dec 2019 23:55

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....1c7d696fc9.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....b28fbb445f.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....45f4a60b68.jpg
Someone said Ibis ;)

krismiler 7th Dec 2019 00:11

A crop duster would have thought he was a pussy for staying so high. Any ag pilot in that position would have been able to stir up the water using the wingtip vortices and possible water skied the main wheels on the way in before popping up to 50' on short final.


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