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B772 7th Dec 2019 06:56

Many years ago I was a pax on a Aviogenex B737-200 scheduled service that did a 360 on final approach at an estimated 300 ft.

ShyTorque 7th Dec 2019 07:21


Originally Posted by LookingForAJob (Post 10633875)
I'm not a professional pilot BUT....how is that possible? I mean, no PAPIs or aiming point makings!

Sign of the times?

krismiler 7th Dec 2019 08:32

This is how to do a low flypast.

JanetFlight 7th Dec 2019 09:10

Still love this one here for all eternity <3


Check Airman 7th Dec 2019 09:28


Originally Posted by sabenaboy (Post 10633894)
It's simple:
- Any airline pilot who is NOT able to do that should not be in the cockpit.
- Any airline pilot who would do that with passengers in the back, should not be in that cockpit.

What does the presence or absence of pax have to do with it? Is the manoeuvre safe or not?

ATC Watcher 7th Dec 2019 09:56


Originally Posted by Check Airman (Post 10634223)


What does the presence or absence of pax have to do with it? Is the manoeuvre safe or not?

No difference I agree, and having learned the local situation there by now, making a 360 at 100ft instead of higher or worse a go around above land/city, yes, this was definitively a safer option .. with or without pax .
Making a 360 with 30 degr bank at 100ft or 500ft is the same manoeuvre , the aircraft does not behave differently , as long as you have wingtip clearance you can even do it lower.. because the aim here was I believe to avoid being shot at ...

Rarife 7th Dec 2019 09:56


Originally Posted by Toruk Macto (Post 10633787)
Some real skills , my guess ex military or crop duster , highly unlikely to have been a MPL .

Is not MPL quite a new thing? Why is everyone who is not flying for 40 years considered to be super bad pilot here? This is getting out of hand.

beardy 7th Dec 2019 10:21


Originally Posted by ATC Watcher (Post 10634235)
No difference I agree, and having learned the local situation there by now, making a 360 at 100ft instead of higher or worse a go around above land/city, yes, this was definitively a safer option .. with or without pax .
Making a 360 with 30 degr bank at 100ft or 500ft is the same manoeuvre , the aircraft does not behave differently , as long as you have wingtip clearance you can even do it lower.. because the aim here was I believe to avoid being shot at ...

We do not know that not being shot at was the aim. It's an assumption.

nolimitholdem 7th Dec 2019 11:00


Originally Posted by Rarife (Post 10634237)
Is not MPL quite a new thing? Why is everyone who is not flying for 40 years considered to be super bad pilot here? This is getting out of hand.

Your multiple posts on the same theme make you seem a tad defensive. Relax.

There are still some good pilots flying, this video just celebrates an era when it was more the norm than the exception to be able to capably fly a machine manually.

Auxtank 7th Dec 2019 11:41


Originally Posted by beardy (Post 10634248)
We do not know that not being shot at was the aim. It's an assumption.

Given the locale is a bloody good one. ;)

FlightDetent 7th Dec 2019 11:50

And this thread will be written in the Bibliography of PPRuNe as The Great Masturbation Topic, Slightly Myopic.

Council Van 7th Dec 2019 12:10


Originally Posted by JanetFlight (Post 10634214)
Still love this one here for all eternity <3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dK5VOhKk8s

I have always wondered how many feet that wing top was above the ground, how much more angle of bank they could have got away with and if they did that on purpose or slightly miss judged that manoeuvre bearing in mind how hard it is to see the wingtip in a swept wing aircraft.

OldnGrounded 7th Dec 2019 12:46


Originally Posted by FlightDetent (Post 10634307)
And this thread will be written in the Bibliography of PPRuNe as The Great Masturbation Topic, Slightly Myopic.

Masturbation with self-congratulation. There oughtta be a word for that. 😎

VR-HFX 7th Dec 2019 13:01

Perfectly safe. Easier to do in a prop than in a 727. Used to do it on the P3.

Raymond Dome 7th Dec 2019 13:34

Brilliant! The snowflakes of the magenta line might be getting their panties in a wad, but this guy can at least fly the aeroplane.

Slow and curious 7th Dec 2019 14:04


Originally Posted by OldnGrounded (Post 10634340)
Masturbation with self-congratulation. There oughtta be a word for that. 😎

Happy end?

Herod 7th Dec 2019 14:20

Narcissurbation?

OldnGrounded 7th Dec 2019 14:34


Originally Posted by Herod (Post 10634393)
Narcissurbation?

Herod wins the Internet!

Auxtank 7th Dec 2019 14:41


Originally Posted by OldnGrounded (Post 10634402)
Herod wins the Internet!

He certainly does...


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....49117c651d.jpg

Airbubba 7th Dec 2019 14:46

From the 'Cargo Pilots in a Boeing' airshow department at a collegiate aviation safety event earlier this year in Janesville, Wisconsin. They went down below 50 feet radar altitude with the wheels up on the low pass.

Both pilots got fired. :eek:

And the cockpit video taken by the jumpseat rider has been taken down from YouTube.


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....e11ac65f53.png
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....424a585929.png


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