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If the rumours are true, many bottled it and went to work. Please someone in the know tell me this isn’t the case. |
Are there many pilots from other bases calling in sick? If they are not, they should be.
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Originally Posted by beachbumflyer
(Post 10551549)
Are there many pilots from other bases calling in sick? If they are not, they should be.
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Fair point, but I feel that some disruption to the operation for customers is needed too
What a thoughtful and considerate person you are. Are there many pilots from other bases calling in sick? If they are not, they should be. At up to a grand a day bonus plus expenses you must be joking :) |
Originally Posted by ayroplain
(Post 10551589)
Fair point, but I feel that some disruption to the operation for customers is needed too
What a thoughtful and considerate person you are. |
Fair point, but I feel that some disruption to the operation for customers is needed too. |
Ryanair has a large percent of pilots who are contractors they can’t strike anyway. 30% of UK pilots voting to strike, can be covered. The salaries being mentioned are absurd, cadet around 30k SO around 40k FO around 60k SFI around 70/80k + Captain 100k+ The issue isn’t money, it’s the small things everyone else takes for granted |
Originally Posted by Alycidon
(Post 10551640)
are you aware that an airline is in the service sector? Are you aware that when a unionised pilot workforce feel that their terms and conditions are under attack that they have the right to down tools, if the company will not negotiate? |
Fair point, but I feel that some disruption to the operation for customers is needed too. |
Originally Posted by old,not bold
(Post 10540728)
Just catching up here...............what BS.
If you work in the leisure industry, which is where Ryanair, and BA to a lesser extent, sit fair and square, you don't get holidays when the customers have them. Get over it, or work in another industry, eg hauling freight. Striking is a last resort to get your way regardless of the merits of your grievances, especially when those merits are pretty much invisible. Pious expressions of sorrow about the consequent suffering of the victims of strikes (aka customers who pay your salaries) are just nauseating. Strike if you must in a peak holiday period, so as to maximise the suffering of those customers as a bargaining tool, but spare us the crap about how you just hate doing it. The airline industry, so out of touch with almost everything, it seems, it's astounding. |
If you work in the leisure industry, which is where Ryanair, and BA to a lesser extent, sit fair and square, you don't get holidays when the customers have them. As for The sole aim here is explicitly to cause maximum disruption to the public to achieve your goals |
Inhumane treatment? In my experience that's what you normally get as a fare paying passenger on Ryanair.
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Originally Posted by Runcorn Bridge
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Problem with that is if you are a contractor you don’t get paid if you don’t work. Ryanair management are far from stupid in that regard. |
Originally Posted by The AvgasDinosaur
(Post 10539292)
Skynews is reporting that UK based RYR pilots have voted for strike action and have announced dates -: 22-23 August and 2/9-4/9 inclusive. Sorry can’t post a link at the moment. Be lucky David Thanks to Senor Richard for the tip |
Originally Posted by beachbumflyer
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Contractors should do something to help.
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Originally Posted by Obama57
(Post 10551902)
5 days... I’m sorry. That is not a strike. That is a vacation.
And guess what? Their companies are still profitable and they have the best T&C of the entire continent. Just a reminder: we're talking about an airline threatening to fire 400 pilots while making a 1 BILLION euro net profit each year (and not providing food and water to crew members). They could fly 24 months with no passengers on board and still have cash...and you're upset by a 2+3 days strike? |
Originally Posted by bulldog89
(Post 10552035)
Don't know about your country, but in the EU we've also seen 7-consecutive-days strikes. And guess what? Their companies are still profitable and they have the best T&C of the entire continent. Just a reminder: we're talking about an airline threatening to fire 400 pilots while making a 1 BILLION euro net profit each year (and not providing food and water to crew members). They could fly 24 months with no passengers on board and still have cash...and you're upset by a 2+3 days strike? |
I have a work colleague due to fly on the MOL Line later today from Stanstead. She's still not sure if the flight will go ahead and the latest news she has been given is along the lines of "It depends if the pilot turns up for work".
So when she leaves work, does she drive to the airport or not? Her home and the airport are in totally different directions from work. There does not appear to be any useful information on the Stanstead airport website at the moment.... What a shambles ! |
Originally Posted by Alycidon
(Post 10539807)
er, no it’s not. Airlines pay pay a variable rate for fuel subject to both fuel and currency hedging, but to get back on subject... Manpower in any large company is sourced as cheaply as the market will allow, I think RYR see this as good business practice. Good employee relations in RYR are surely what the BRCC and the pilots want most of all, but strike action won’t make this happen and I worry that downsizing or closing bases won’t only affect pilots, but Cabin Crew, Engineers and Handling staff will lose their jobs too. proceed with caution... |
The airline industry, so out of touch with almost everything, it seems, it's astounding |
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