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Intruder 29th Jan 2019 18:18

It is also quite possible that the runway had a displaced threshold, and the pilot landed on good runway surface, not in an overrun.

172_driver 29th Jan 2019 18:58

I like the "Thank you for flying Ethiad Airways, how did we do?" at the end of the recording :D

fatbus 29th Jan 2019 19:58

It appears normal . Move on !

DaveReidUK 29th Jan 2019 21:59


Originally Posted by Morane (Post 10374604)
the video clearly shows the name of the airline that can not be named

See post #9.

PoppaJo 29th Jan 2019 22:16


Originally Posted by Doors to Automatic (Post 10374681)
There was a very similar video posted ten years ago:

https://youtu.be/lOmGd4qpsyk

Touchdown at exactly the same point but on this one you can see the spot of the real touchdown when the spoliers deploy.

Let me clarify a few things having previously flown the thing. That Sydney Emirates one is live video and that’s a undershoot. Just be thankful it wasn’t the other end. Spoilers don’t deploy at the speed of the 737 or A320, initial deployment is only 5 degree/sec.

I am not overly convinced the original discussion video is delayed either (AUH 31L). Whilst it’s very hard to see, I’m seeing handling characteristics of landing short.

mickjoebill 30th Jan 2019 01:49

One way of measuring the time delay is to simultaneously video and observe the beginning of push back or the arrival at the gate. Do this by Videoing the seat back display but observe the pushback through the window, when pushback starts shout now! so your voice will be recorded. Replay to examine the time delay between your voice and when the onscreen display reveals begining of pushback. Also works for the end of flight.

Capn Bloggs 30th Jan 2019 02:57


Originally Posted by Tangoalpha
Ignoring the initial 'duck' of the camera that gives what I suspect the illusion of an early touchdown it looks like the mains contacted probably not far off from the first of the TDZ lines.

Agree. Much ado about nothing.

Capt Fathom 30th Jan 2019 03:05


Originally Posted by PoppaJo (Post 10374950)

Whilst it’s very hard to see, I’m seeing handling characteristics of landing short.

For the benefit of the rest of us here, what exactly are you seeing?

Ollie Onion 30th Jan 2019 03:30

Looked like a normal landing to me, just a delay on the video feed.

ManaAdaSystem 30th Jan 2019 08:08

Why would there be a delay on the video feed?

Jesse Pinkman 30th Jan 2019 08:29


Originally Posted by ManaAdaSystem (Post 10375201)
Why would there be a delay on the video feed?

Have you ever flown an Airbus?

ManaAdaSystem 30th Jan 2019 08:54

No, but I know at what speed electrons move, and they don’t take 5 seconds from camera to screen.

DaveReidUK 30th Jan 2019 09:18

Haven't we been here before?

From 2010:

PPRuNe: Emirates 380 landing from tail camera

portmanteau 30th Jan 2019 15:10

172 Driver post 23; Its ok you misspelt the airline name so they can't touch you....

Airbubba 30th Jan 2019 15:17


Originally Posted by ManaAdaSystem (Post 10375247)
No, but I know at what speed electrons move, and they don’t take 5 seconds from camera to screen.

I'm not exactly sure that's the reason for the latency in rendering the video. ;)

Doors to Automatic 30th Jan 2019 23:33

I stand corrected. There is definitely NO time delay.

Take a look at this one.......


NWA SLF 31st Jan 2019 00:21

Is it possible they delay due to what happened to the American DC-10 in Chicago? If I remember correctly amounts awarded were higher because the passengers watched their crash from the front facing television. American removed these immediately after the accident. I'm not aware of anybody using them again until the A380. We should be able to look over the captain's shoulder just like in a taxi and us passengers give advice like are you sure you are taking the fastest route, watch out for the turbulence, etc.

Chu Chu 31st Jan 2019 01:30

One day last summer, I sat in seat 50H of an A-330, watching the downward-facing camera as we landed on pristine white concrete, with the the first isolated tire marks just coming into view at the top of the screen. I heard a few gasps, which seemed to be from passengers watching the same view I was.

I didn't think about video delay at the time, but that's the obvious explanation. (I remember that the touchdown came just as I was thinking that we were a few seconds from landing -- and I guess on the video, we were.)

George Glass 31st Jan 2019 04:20

The landing at Sydney on 16R was definitely short. The tire marks on the piano keys were there for months after. Sitting at the hold point watching landings in a gusty quartering tailwind or southerly buster on 16R can be entertaining. But no laughing. There but for the grace of God go I.........

Bull at a Gate 31st Jan 2019 04:29

Delay as an explanation for this video? I call bull. Videos of the view from the tail camera of a landing A380 are available all over the internet. Some show the view from the tail camera on a video screen, a pan to the window to see outside and then a pan back to the video screen. The two views, inside and outside, are synchronised. Try this one for example.


I agree with Doors to Automatic. There is no delay.


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