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Airbubba 26th Jan 2019 15:36

A380 Landing Short on Pax Video?
 
Some outfit called the Air Safety Group has posted a video of a 'nameless' airline's A380 supposedly landing short of the threshold. This looks like a seat back screen, after the touchdown a pop-up message asks 'How did we do?'

The video is being retweeted on aviation sites like @CivMilAir and will probably make its way into the news cycle on a slow weekend.


This video has been sent to the ASG it shows a serious incident of an ****** A380 landing short Would anyone with any information about this landing please send it to



One of the comments on the original post suggests that the touchdown is normal while the video is several seconds behind which seems plausible. I'd find it hard to believe that an A380 could land short without someone else noticing.



tlott 26th Jan 2019 15:56

In my experience those cameras often have a several second delay. It's obvious when watching for rotation or touchdown as a pax.

lomapaseo 26th Jan 2019 16:12

Is the touchdown confirmed at the same time by both the video plus the sound? If so I don't see a several second delay.

Any chance for picture foreshortening?

tlott 26th Jan 2019 16:15


Originally Posted by lomapaseo (Post 10371647)
Is the touchdown confirmed at the same time by both the video plus the sound? If so I don't see a several second delay.

Any chance for picture foreshortening?

But the sound is the ambient cabin sound, not from the video feed. You can hear the touchdown before you see it on the (possibly delayed) video feed. Makes sense to me, (if my brain is working this morning, anyway).

Personally, watching these video feeds as a pax on many flights, it looks normal to me. Maybe some IFE systems have more delay than others, but they are all delayed. Takes time to encode the video from the source and stream it to the IFE.

LeftHeadingNorth 26th Jan 2019 16:45

If they indeed touched down short they would have collected the last part of the approach lights which would have caused substantial damage to both the plane and the lights (!). Something doesn't add up.

DaveReidUK 26th Jan 2019 17:16

Methinks that the somewhat pompously self-described "Air Safety Group UK" hasn't done their credibility any good by posting this nonsense.

Has anybody ever heard of this "voluntary effort to improve safety for the travelling public since 1964" ?

https://airsafetygroup.org

a330pilotcanada 26th Jan 2019 17:32

Check the vasi “all white”...

Yes much different perspective from the flight deck but a good cue to suggest nothing was amiss. I have had 8 sectors as a passenger on the A-380-800 and all landings have been firm........

But then again who am I to judge....

Zeffy 26th Jan 2019 17:44

Video out of synch
 
https://twitter.com/samnagy

More
Replying to @ASG_EGTT @AviationSafety @avheraldIt’s not a serious incident. The camera video is delayed on all A380’s so the sound of touchdown is ‘live’ and the video on screen comes through after a few seconds.

DaveReidUK 26th Jan 2019 18:12

Tweet now deleted.

Hopefully the airline-that-cannot-be-named, whom they accused of landing an A380 short of the runway, will be understanding in this instance.

Wannabe Flyer 28th Jan 2019 10:05

So that explains why all tail cams not the 380 I have flown in the last month have been switched off on a large 380 inventory holder. On the first flight I thought might not be working but on the subsequent three flights they were also off....

Capt Fathom 28th Jan 2019 10:11

This thread is useless... without the video! :}

glideher 28th Jan 2019 16:13


Originally Posted by Capt Fathom (Post 10373226)
This thread is useless... without the video! :}

i would love to see a video as well

DaveReidUK 28th Jan 2019 20:33


Originally Posted by Capt Fathom (Post 10373226)
This thread is useless... without the video!

Well you're half right. :O


Jack330 28th Jan 2019 21:35

I have the video, it's everywhere on whatsapp, I just don't know how to load it here but PM and I'll share...

Jack330 28th Jan 2019 21:51

https://streamable.com/3jfb3

ManaAdaSystem 28th Jan 2019 22:12


Originally Posted by Jack330 (Post 10373898)

Bite me, but that looks like a landing before the lights! White PAPI, but the camera is high up so that’s normal.

ironbutt57 28th Jan 2019 22:58


Originally Posted by ManaAdaSystem (Post 10373923)


Bite me, but that looks like a landing before the lights! White PAPI, but the camera is high up so that’s normal.

sounded like one...

Jetjock330 29th Jan 2019 09:41

Its been investigated found to be a delayed video feed of a few seconds between real time reality and where it was 5 seconds before!

Morane 29th Jan 2019 16:13

the video clearly shows the name of the airline that can not be named

Doors to Automatic 29th Jan 2019 17:12

There was a very similar video posted ten years ago:


Touchdown at exactly the same point but on this one you can see the spot of the real touchdown when the spoliers deploy.


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