Emirates 380 landing from tail camera
was watching the screen and we appeared to touchdown on the piano keys, however, kept watching and the deployment of the spoilers gave away the landing point....
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Slippery Dick, The deployment of the spoilers don't give away as much as you may think.
Ground Spoiler extension occurs after thrust lever retard and 1 landing gear compressed (nose gear included) spoilers 1&2 extend to 10 degrees and spoilers 3 - 8 to 15 degrees at a rate of 5 degrees per second. After 3 main gears are on ground spoilers 1&2 extend to 35 degrees and spoilers 3 - 8 extend to 50 degrees at a rate of 17 degrees/ sec. Ailerons also move to 25 degrees up. I doubt you would notice the initial deployment on the fin camera.
Ground Spoiler extension occurs after thrust lever retard and 1 landing gear compressed (nose gear included) spoilers 1&2 extend to 10 degrees and spoilers 3 - 8 to 15 degrees at a rate of 5 degrees per second. After 3 main gears are on ground spoilers 1&2 extend to 35 degrees and spoilers 3 - 8 extend to 50 degrees at a rate of 17 degrees/ sec. Ailerons also move to 25 degrees up. I doubt you would notice the initial deployment on the fin camera.
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Holy smokes Batman - this is incredible!!
Correct me if I'm wrong, but these video images show aircraft landing on a runway, slowing down, and then exiting the runway on a taxiway!!! No doubt they end up at an airbridge a few minutes later, and the passengers get off. There are no crashes, no deaths, and everyone makes it to their destination as planned.
This is SHOCKING STUFF!!!!!
Wait until the media get their hands on it.....
Choice bro'!
Correct me if I'm wrong, but these video images show aircraft landing on a runway, slowing down, and then exiting the runway on a taxiway!!! No doubt they end up at an airbridge a few minutes later, and the passengers get off. There are no crashes, no deaths, and everyone makes it to their destination as planned.
This is SHOCKING STUFF!!!!!
Wait until the media get their hands on it.....
Choice bro'!
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Holy smokes Batman - this is incredible!!
Correct me if I'm wrong, but these video images show aircraft landing on a runway
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OK, Question from a bugsmasher to the big boys.
If I touch down a bit short at YCAB, apart from me caring about the condition of the surface, not too many folk care two hoots, but when these EK A380's keep doing it in Sydney, at what point does somebody care?.....i.e. CASA or the operator themselves.
Just like the LST light issue, unless its been pulled already the data is most likely long gone. Is it hand flying gone wrong or airbus automagics turned to "merde" ?
J
PS...not wanting an EK bash, the first one was sort of funny, but that last one is starting to push the envelope a bit too far.
If I touch down a bit short at YCAB, apart from me caring about the condition of the surface, not too many folk care two hoots, but when these EK A380's keep doing it in Sydney, at what point does somebody care?.....i.e. CASA or the operator themselves.
Just like the LST light issue, unless its been pulled already the data is most likely long gone. Is it hand flying gone wrong or airbus automagics turned to "merde" ?
J
PS...not wanting an EK bash, the first one was sort of funny, but that last one is starting to push the envelope a bit too far.
As a comparison, are there any normal daylight landings we can see? If they all seem to touch down at the same point then we're probably getting excited about nothing - though they really do look rather short.
There are some A380 landing videos at other places and the piano keys have well and truly gone past the wing before touchdown...
I see there is no attempt to kick off the draft before touchdown; is this an A380 SOP?
I see there is no attempt to kick off the draft before touchdown; is this an A380 SOP?
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A380 FCTM.
18 wheeler. The video is live and accurate. What you see, is what they got. Scary stuff. How can this not be a great concern to CASA and the travelling public. They are landing A380's before the runway. What is the load bearing capacity of the tarmac in the undershoot area?
In strong crosswind conditions, the aircraft may land with a residual drift of 5 degrees maximum.
18 wheeler. The video is live and accurate. What you see, is what they got. Scary stuff. How can this not be a great concern to CASA and the travelling public. They are landing A380's before the runway. What is the load bearing capacity of the tarmac in the undershoot area?
Hey Kant - have you seen "Belly of the Beast" on Youtube by the same guy?
He is very, very good
He is very, very good
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Belly of the beast!
That Belly of the beast video is great stuff. That guy also has a heap of other worth while videos posted - The FE's Lament, posted above is another good one. I might waste an hour watching all of his vids.
Looks like being a freight dog has some advantages...
Thanks for the links.
Looks like being a freight dog has some advantages...
Thanks for the links.
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It's inevitable that there'll be *some* delay before video frames make it to the seat-back displays, probably much greater than the delay pilots see on their MFDs. I don't know much about the A380 entertainment system but the feed may well go via a hard drive on the central server, and the in-seat part of the entertainment system probably buffers some frames ahead of time as well. Even a barely perceptible half-second delay is 120 feet at 140 knots. I don't think it's fair to critique these landings as "short" without having more information about the display lag or having other evidence as to the touchdown point.
P.S. The Belly of the Beast video is awesome, thanks for sharing.
P.S. The Belly of the Beast video is awesome, thanks for sharing.
18 wheeler. The video is live and accurate. What you see, is what they got. Scary stuff. How can this not be a great concern to CASA and the travelling public.
Dangerous stuff!
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now we know what a more normal landing looks like and so can confirm that the ones in the other two videos are landing very short.
Obviously a smoother landing, but used more runway, usual trade-off. I still don't think we can conclude that the others landed before the threshold or dangerously close to it.