Hopefully, being held hostage like this this will make other nations think more closely about giving up their sovereignty.

Having spoken to a lot of varied Europeans over the last few months it's clear that BREXIT has done for the idea of leaving the EU what Troy did for accepting gifts from Greeks...................

Held hostage? Well we ended up with these BREXIT rules thanks to.... a Brit.. Lord Kerr, who is the British author of Article 50 :p

Just like the FTL rules at EASA that we got thanks to the UK CAA their campaign :rolleyes:

Just in case you missed it PuraVida: the British politicians knew about the rules of Article 50 from day one as their civil servants wrote it! From DAY 1 it was clear that there were 6 scenario's... AND that there was no negotiations as such except on details. So go back to your politicians and ask them to stop lying to you and the press to do a better job in explaining a very clear SOP for leaving the EU. Pick one of the six scenarios and bugger off!

de facto

Fees on the UK side:
- £45 for Licence Verification ( Form SRG 1160)
- £77 for transfer of your Medical Data

Fees on the Irish side:
- €600 for issue of an ATPL (do not know how much to issue a CPL, if that's your case)

PM if you want, or need, more info on the subject

Good Afternoon,

I am trying to make sense of all the paperwork for a SOLI change to Ireland.

Please can anyone confirm that I didnt miss anything out?

heres what i think you have to do:-

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SRG 1202 - transfer of medical records.
first part completed by pilot then sent to CAA for full completion with separate payment form SRG 1201.

SRG 2150 - application to release information to IAA for the SOLI change.
attachments -

1. Certified copy of licence
2. Examiner report forms
3. Payment form FCS1500, which is included with the SRG 2150

The RPPL-F-100E which is sent direct to the IAA with

1. copy of licence,
2. copy of medical
3. passport

SFIM

The important part, the thing that is going to set things in motion, is to send the " RPPL-F-100E" to the IAA.

By all means the forms that you need to be sent to the UK CAA are also important. However the UK CAA will not do anything until they receive a formal request from the IAA to provide information about the licence, and medical data, of the applicant that is applying to change SOLI.

de facto

About your question regarding the "licence copy must be certified", if your licence is "as issued by the CAA", in other words, if since it was issued by the CAA there were no handwritten entries made on the licence by a TRE, in case of an LPC, then the copy of the licence needs NOT to be certified. Search the UK CAA website for "How to get copies of your documents certified". At the end of the page it mentions what I wrote on this paragraph. If you however did any LPC's since your licence was issued, and this were endorsed on your licence by the TRE, then I'm afraid that you will have to certify the copy of your licence. There is an explanation on the CAA website on how to get this done.

I dont understand why the UK CAA always has the need to recieve a virified copy of a license for the smallest things. They are they only CAA I know who require someone else to sign that they have seen the original...wtf...

For those like me, who got now an European license, what about the medical ?

we will not be longer valid with a UK medical after 29march, we need to have a EASA medical whatever the country, but does mean traveling abroad just for medical ... ????

Probably.

The advice i have seen so far was to get a medical in EASAland (non-UK) before March 29th next year. Just to be on the safe side. Now, there might be AMEs in the UK that have been approved by other NAAs as well and can do it without travelling abroad, but i have no clue there are. I just know that my AME in germany is approved by the CAA, the FAA and of course the LBA (and i believe they try to get their AMC transferred to switzerland as germany is just bonkers).

In EASA land all of your records - for your licence and for your medical certificate - have to be held by the same country.
Where the medical examinations and skill tests take place is up to the authorised examiners (medical and flying respectively).
I believe there can be difficulties with transferring away from Germany (and maybe Austria) to another State because their national law puts restrictions on transferring medical information out of the country.

That was the case until 2 years ago but now it seems a medical can be passed in any EASA country regardless of which country the licence is held. . As far as Germany is concerned, , I have tried it and passed it in Germany last year and the French DGAC accepts it no problem . . The medical certificate form has now "European union " on top instead of the country's name, "pertaining to a Part-FCL Licence" and " issued in accordance with Part-MED" at the bottom. However I am not sure every country accepts it from every other one , but France accepts Germans medicals .

If I may, a small correction; British civil servants did not write it, and Lord Kerr did not draft article 50, it was Guiliano Amato, the Ex President of Italy, and a lawyer (Kerr is a diplomat) who drafted the article.

Kerr was part of the team involved in that drafting that part of the Lisbon Treaty, but not the final drafter.

You are correct however about the utter lack of knowledge of the procedures and meanings of Article 50.

Errr.... No. When I worked for them last, which was five years ago, I can't remember there being any non UK cabin crew, and very few non UK flight crew. Don't think it's changed much.

Anyway, disregarding CRM for a moment, this is a pilot's forum. Your is post is the first I've seen on this thread addressing cabin crew issues. And if a small number of non-UK European nationals lose the right to work in UK airlines they can presumably do a job swap with the UK nationals who may no longer have the right to work in Europe. What is the point of having an EASA licence to fly a non UK reg aircraft if you no longer have the right to live and work in Europe, or are you going to renounce your British Citizenship?

I sincerely hope that anyone who works in the airline industry and voted to leave has now realised that it may have been like Turkeys voting for Christmas, and would vote remain if we get another referendum.

2 ways of looking at it. Is the chaos caued by Brexit or having been part of the European Project. Looking at the whole of Europe the European Union has caused far more chaos than Brexit ever will. I for one could do without EASA, another protectionist racket driven by politics not safety.