As I understand, FR24 saves one report per minute, even if reports come in more often than that. Assuming that your premise is correct (this is the first time I hear about this), what are the odds that the last report saved by FR24 just happens to be the one when the transponder was passing through mode A? |
Update - Vietnam SAR
Very briefly:
- Square orange object, buoy suspected, spotted by DHC6 at 1020 local time (UTC+7 i.e. 0320Z), position N074730 E1025712. Investigating. - The suspected "window liner" object spotted yesterday evening (widely reported as a suspected "door" in international media) has not been found again by 1130 local time. - Search area possibly to be extended to South China Sea by afternoon. Search continues, no confirmed debris so far. source Dan Tri via Google Translate |
I'm starting to agree with Clear Prop. Either it was deliberately switched off, or there was a serious electrical malfunction / fire in the business end.
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Seismic event
We are told that when SR111 hit the water "seismographic recorders in Halifax and in Moncton recorded a seismic event".
Does anyone have the expertise to confirm that, and to say whether the same could be expected of any large aircraft hitting the ocean (intact I presume)? |
I'm starting to agree with Clear Prop. Either it was deliberately switched off, or there was a serious electrical malfunction / fire in the business end. That might explain why it's difficult to find as well. |
Search for debris - delay makes sense
Sailing through the search region several years ago showed a lot of fishing activity, but in addition to this there was significant floating debris, floating islands of rubbish and discarded junk. Whilst it may seem strange to some that a definite debris field hasn't been found, in the context of the area, it makes sense that they are being careful to verify any possible sightings. Plus, bearing in mind that much of the fishing in the area is small operators, with varied nationalities, operating to their own rules (rather than large companies), it really could be some time before feedback comes from these sources. Hoping that further news comes soon for the loved ones of those on board.
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We are told that when SR111 hit the water "seismographic recorders in Halifax and in Moncton recorded a seismic event". Does anyone have the expertise to confirm that, and to say whether the same could be expected of any large aircraft hitting the ocean (intact I presume)? |
@clearprop
Yes tartare, thats exactly what I am suggesting. Not to mention no radar being able to track it past the time the squawk was lost? Hmmm.. There is more to this than meets the eye I think. Time will tell. |
And to think I've been wasting my time here |
So, with 50,000kg on board, you could fly for about 7 hours (and reserves) and go about 2000nm. |
I appreciate there are fine differences in the scenarios of disappearance, but do the media seem to be making more of the issue of a/c or debris not yet being located yet than in previous similar incidents? I'm pretty sure in time gone by there have been aircraft lost at sea that have taken a little while to find (it was about five days for AF447?); and it just strikes me that the mainstream news outlets are more than ever - even by their standards - making an issue that 2.5 days in there's still no sign; like it's completely unprecedented and totally incomprehensible. Is it me, or maybe there's a Moore's Law of media flabbergast? In case of TWA 800, a large piece of the wing was found in the ocean the day after the incident. Finding no trace of the aircraft at 60+ hours after it goes missing, in a densely populated region, is quite unusual and the media is justified in making it an issue. |
Some of the assets sent to locate the debris are pretty advanced. The anti-submarine assets have the means to locate targets as small as a periscope.
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'Another Witness'
Make of this what you want
Getting his 15 minutes of fame, or, something the authorities should be looking at? |
After finding cracks in the Wings on the 787 production line and added to the 787 Battery issue, this couldn't have come at a worse time for Boeing. The last thing they need is for this to be blamed on the manufacturer. Could they survive an additional crisis?
Conspiracy Theorists.... Over to you |
jugofpropwash:
There was a suggestion made regarding rewarding fishermen for finding pieces of debris. How about going one further? Supposedly they have video of the two (or more?) passengers flying with the stolen passports. How about publishing their photos, and offering a reward to anyone who can identify them? |
SAR
This is still Google translated so careful...
1400 local: Singapore's C130 is said to have sighted "a suspected lifeboat-like object" at N081605 E1025111, 140 km SW of Tho Chu island. "Physical comfort is detected lifeboat gray striped red and blue (the color logo of Malaysia). " [The report appears to suggest the object is emergency chute size. But I have never heard chutes are be painted in airline livery colors....] Surface vessels on their way to investigate. |
KELANTAN: ''A businessman in Ketereh claimed that he saw a bright white light, believed to be of an aircraft's, descending at high speed towards the South China Sea via Bachok airspace about 1.45am on the day flight MH370 went missing''
Sorry this does not add up either; a bright white light is not a burning aircraft; always bright red/orange unless magnesium? Perhaps a meteor but astronomers could verify this. |
If MH370 suffered an incident like Egyptair SU-GBP @ FL350, they had no chance. Might explain the quick descent and if the fire took out the power to the comms, no way they could send out a mayday even if they had time to.
EDIT - And they'll be heading towards land. |
Originally Posted by Psittacine
(Post 8363428)
Or...maybe 2-4 terrorists, 1-2 of whom are basic pilots armed with a Glock “plastic gun” style weapon ...
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8 degrees north
So we started at 3N and now we are up to 8N. How many NM is that? I imagine 300 at least.
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