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nitpicker330 9th Mar 2014 11:21

Malay Military chief just said on News Asia that 20 fixed and rotary wing Aircraft as well as 40 Ships out looking now. From Malaysia and other countries.
Examining military Radar data now too.

AlphaZuluRomeo 9th Mar 2014 11:27


Originally Posted by Lost in Saigon (Post 8360785)
Really, at this point we know almost nothing other than the aircraft has gone missing while cruising at 35,000' without a distress signal of any kind.

Everything else is speculation.

Agreed 90%.
For those looking for 10% left facts, three other things we know yet are:
- that stolen and/or faked passeports (number no less than 2, perhaps more) were used to board the aircraft; so far, this is unconclusive.
- that the aircraft was involved in a wing clipping in 2012, subsenquently repaired and returned to flight status; so far, this is unconclusive.
- that the "most online" figure of PPRuNe was raised yesterday, from its precedent record dated june 1, 2009 (i.e. 447).

porter 9th Mar 2014 11:36

AlphaZulaRomeo your comment


- that the aircraft was involved in a wing clipping in 2012, subsenquently repaired and returned to flight status; so far, this is unconclusive.
Are you sure?


08:12 GMT - Broken wing tip - Malaysia Airlines says the plane that disappeared suffered a broken wing tip in 2012 but was fully repaired and cleared to fly.

"The aircraft had a clipped wing tip. A portion, possibly a metre (1.1 yard) of the wing tip, was torn," Malaysia Airlines CEO Ahmad Jauhari Yahya told reporters.

"It was repaired by Boeing and cleared by Boeing and was approved by various authorities. It was safe to fly."
Source:
Malaysia Airlines investigation: Live Report

toung 9th Mar 2014 11:46

There are many automatic ELTs on 777 even121.5, 243,406mhz. Where are they?

TWT 9th Mar 2014 11:47

Who's in charge of co-ordinating the search ?

Are the Vietnamese in charge ?There are Vietnamese and Malaysian assets out there now.Throw in a few Chinese vessels.Add a C-130 from Singapore and soon,a couple of P3C Orions from Oz.

Sounds a bit tricky.

Trim Stab 9th Mar 2014 11:51


Who's in charge of co-ordinating the search ?
Singapore probably.

http://www.mpa.gov.sg/sites/images/p...gapore-srr.jpg

lilkim 9th Mar 2014 11:51

Singapore has also deployed their submarine to assist in search. :D

nitpicker330 9th Mar 2014 11:52

Let me see.

Malaysian flagged carrier

Probably inside Malaysian Airspace

I'd say Malaysia would have the lead in the SAR op.

airbus_driver319 9th Mar 2014 11:53

Meth,

As has been stated many times! They didn't need a visa if they were staying less than 72 hours....

macroman 9th Mar 2014 11:53

Reports of sightings of debris off the Vietnamese coast starting to pop up on news feeds. Nothing confirmed at this stage though.

snowfalcon2 9th Mar 2014 11:56

Update - Vietnam SAR
 
Sun has set and soon we should get reports from airborne search. The most recent I've seen, from a Thanh Nien reporter aboard Mi-171 helicopter no 02, was negative however. It took off after the AN-26s had returned to investigate at N072740 E1025848. This is in the vicinity of the oils slick spotted yesterday but further west.

However, flying at 500 metres (1500 ft) or lower, the crew judged the slick not to be oil.
The crew also observed several objects floating in the sea, which on closer observation were determined not to be from MH370.

I guess we will have some more of these false alarms, until the shipborne search starts in earnest as vessels arrive in the area. So far I have not seen any report of ships in action which would be capable of locating the CVR and FDR pinger.

jbr76 9th Mar 2014 11:58


Chinese consular records should show what visas were issued, since a holder of either of the stolen passports would require a visa and we may assume that MAS ground staff would have checked that the visas were in order.
You DO NOT have to have a valid visa to enter China if you are a transit passenger with an on-going ticket to another country. You can stay in China for 72hrs.

The e-ticket photo supplied shows an on-going ticket to AMS, (KUL-PEK-AMS) which would match up the theory of whom-ever having no intention of setting foot in China at all.

Get your facts straight.

Andy_S 9th Mar 2014 12:00


Originally Posted by spicejetter (Post 8361480)
AF447 was found by now and that was in the middle of the South Atlantic.

Jeez there's some c*** being spouted on this thread.

No, AF447 hadn't been "found by now". Suspected debris was spotted about two days after it lost contact, but the first actual debris wasn't recovered until five days after the incident.

The location of AF447 on the ocean floor wasn't discovered until almost two years after the accident.

luoto 9th Mar 2014 12:01

Interpol might disagree. Fairly global is 166 countries. Now, whether Malaysia checks it...

Stolen and Lost Travel Documents – holds information on more than 39 million travel documents reported lost or stolen by 166 countries. This database enables INTERPOL National Central Bureaus and other authorized law enforcement entities (such as immigration and border control officers) to ascertain the validity of a suspect travel document in seconds.
Databases / INTERPOL expertise / Internet / Home - INTERPOL

lapp 9th Mar 2014 12:04


Chinese consular records should show what visas were issued, since a holder of either of the stolen passports would require a visa and we may assume that MAS ground staff would have checked that the visas were in order.
Do the effort of reading thread or inform yourself, passengers in transit requires no visa.

snowfalcon2 9th Mar 2014 12:05

Update - Vietnam SAR
 
According to a Thanh Nien report, a "composite inner wall window piece" would have been spotted by a Vietnamese marine police seaplane (the DHC-6?) at N473208 E1032226. The seaplane had to return [presumably due to nightfall.]

The coordinate must be erroneous, but the description is the most fitting so far. Let's see if it holds. The news item said "the pilot could take pictures, but not clearly".

Disclamer, as usual: Based on Google translation.

EDIT: Dantri gives the coordinate as N083247, which puts the sighting 14NM to NE of the AN-26 sighting earlier today and 44NM / 82 km SSW of Tho Chu.

Hotel Tango 9th Mar 2014 12:06

I would be of the opinion that the false passports belonged to people who paid their way to a "new life" in Europe, and that it is not connected to this accident.

Anti Skid On 9th Mar 2014 12:07

According to this report something 'yellow' has been spotted by Singaporean SAR and the Vietnamese were going to be on site in a boat by 12.20 GMT

(I realise this differs to what Snowfalcon 2 has posted - at least one of the reports must be correct)

What would be yellow? Life rafts, the green internal paint?

parabellum 9th Mar 2014 12:08

On the Australian PBS channel tonight, in their World news bulletin, they said Singapore would coordinate the search.


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