No, multiple PSRs do not necessarily mean that you have improved track accuracy. For that to happen, one has to have track to track correlation, with some kind of smoothing and filtering. Mathematically it's not trivial. So, what most air surveillance systems do is pick the tracking source in which they have the greatest confidence and ignore or suppress the other inputs.
Also, most PSRs scan in az, but not in el. IOW, we don't frigging know how high you are, hence Mode C. Military surveillance systems will use a combination of search and height finder radars to develop a track that is coherent in az and el. Phased array radars of course can do it all, but the el scan tends to be very duty cycle intensive. IOW, you can lose the track while you're farting around trying to see where the target is in el. |
Originally Posted by Jack1985
(Post 8360924)
The South China Morning Post is running pictures of two debris fields spotted from a flight at 36,000ft this morning, they were taken from a MAS flight en-route from PEK to KUL.
http://i.imgur.com/8BQdspv.jpg The poster, whose profile information says he is a banker working for China Minsheng Bank in Beijing, wrote that he took the snaps from his window at a height of 11,000 metres, at about 6.45am on Sunday. |
Exit Photos and prints
Malaysian Customs and Immigration takes photos of each departing passenger's face as well as electronically scanned fingerprints.
Stand by for the images of the four suspect passengers - if they are 'interesting' |
The Ca Mau think was 1st reported a day ago.
If the A/C ELT was going off the 406 signal would have been picked up by satellite long ago. And I would like to think every pilot within a thousand miles was listening to 121.5 on a comm "just in case" Do we know for sure this aircraft had an ELT installed? Maybe it had one of the "Firestarter406's" in it an was pulled after the 787 barbecued? |
The FDR has a pinger. It is strange that this has not been mentioned.
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I wonder?
A photographer I most definitely ain't!
Just wondering that if this pic was taken enroute fro Beijing to KUL, IN THE MORNING, seems very dark to me and debris appears very uniform in size? Just wondering if this sort of stuff would show up from 11,000 metres, even on zoom? |
Angle from Cabin Windown?
Seems like a fairly vertical shot from a Window seat and must be very high zoom also?
If any truth, then no doubt the A/C sent their exact position to the relevant Search coordinators. |
BREAKING
Two passengers on the flight had onward flights from PEK meaning they avoided visa checks and would be allowed on the flight to PEK - PAX 1 had onward flight to AMS and then CPH, PAX 2 had onward flight to FRA both with China Southern Airlines.
Both passengers were using stolen passports. |
Pom Pax,
"1. What was the previous rotation of this aircraft? Possibility of package hidden on board and not discovered by cleaners." It appears 9M-MRO had been to a number of destinations during the past week, including multiple trips to Mumbai, Dhaka (Bangladesh), and Denpasar (Bali). |
Another report of debris...
Some debris has been spotted in the seas between Malaysia and Vietnam but it is unclear whether it came from the missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370, a Chinese official said on Sunday. |
Just wondering if this sort of stuff would show up from 11,000 metres, even on zoom? |
Agree with B A, how would you get a shot of debris from 11000 meters which appears to be vertical?
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Regular visitors to Bangkok would be aware that 'anything' can be purchased in Bangkok. Fake ID's including FBI, Secret Service, drivers licences for any Countries etc etc. Stolen Passports in Thailand are valueable and are modified as required with a new picture.
There are many fake passports in Malaysia sourced from Thailand due to the passport rules there. If you lose a passport in Malaysia it is a serious matter and you have to wait a period of time for a replacement. If you lose the replacement you may be ineligible for a further issue for up to 5 years. Malaysia also has a Passport Blacklist with a target update of less than 1 hour after receiving notification from a Government Agency or Court. You are added to the Blacklist. You can be denied leaving Malaysia if you become Bankrupt, have an upcoming or current Court Case, owe Income Tax, been convicted of a Criminal Offence and numerous other reasons, hence travel on fake Passports. Readers may also be surprised to hear the critical parts of some Passports including US Passports are made in Thailand, a Country with a radical Islamic population. It will be interesting to see what is said about the 'impersonators' on MH370. I hope they could turn out to be Malaysian businessmen. |
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Article on the 4 persons of interest
Two more Europeans with suspect identities onboard missing MH370 - The Malaysian Insider |
Malaysian officials have just said the aircraft made an attempt to turn-back - Live on Sky News
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http://ww1.sinaimg.cn/bmiddle/6aca1b...20xc18g447.jpg
http://ww1.sinaimg.cn/bmiddle/6aca1b...20xc18gn2d.jpg ??_RAYMOND?????_?? Photos are not from right above if you see the same shot less zoomed in shot (first link) |
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BiQZ9K5IMAAbE1c.jpg
Found a "less cropped" version of the debris...with windows frame for reference.... https://twitter.com/search?q=mh370%2...pd&mode=photos |
The various jurisdictions may not be on the best of terms with one another and may be reluctant to reveal the capabilities of their various military radar systems by releasing detailed tracks.
I am still bemused at the lack of reports of debris when it seems the area is covered by fishing boats -- are they all NORDO? A high speed impact would produce small fragments. Perhaps there's a lot of normal flotsam in the area such that the extra debris would not attract attention. |
Well it appears to have been taken at night, which begs the question: what is the light source causing each "fragment" to illuminate with exactly the same intensity?
This is a photo of ground based lights. |
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