Then why FL295? Because they were possibly transiting an area where the Quadrangal rule is in effect and they wanted to be sure that they didn't hit anything coming the other way, because this is in effect up to FL290 (see the Malaysian AIP). So why not fly at FL355? Possible because other planes flying at FL340 - 360 could see them pass relatively close under them and advise ATC of a "near miss"? So, a report of FL295 from primary radar could easily be an aircraft cruising at FL280, FL290, FL300 or FL310 based on its barometric altimeter. |
Does the not-knowing make you nervous when you turn up for work? I am curious as to how you deal with this on a daily basis |
FL295 was confirmed by the RMAF Chief.
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So the captain builds and flies an advanced sim on his off days instead of going to the mosque 5 times a day - and HE is the suspect one!!?? Get real!
It's been 2000 posts since I last contributed, and whereas I truely appreciate the input from fellow professionals, from the aviation industry and others, I can't help but being angered by those writing here with the only purpose of satisfying their own curiosity and/or writing mindless nonsense. GO AWAY! Find another forum. Or stay. Read.. And learn. |
As a retired senior detective and AVSEC specialist, I laugh when somebody says they can't spot too many, sleepers in the PAX manifest. If it were as easy to catch hijackers by reading down the PAX manifest, we'd catch them all easily. Hijackers don't necessarily have the same profile as your average terrorist. Why? Because not all hijackers are terrorists. As for the crew, the captain and first officer have nothing, it seems, in common. There is a large age gap. There is a large disparity in experience. One appears to be a man dedicated to his job, the other a bit of a playboy (if earlier reports are at all accurate). And no one planning this type of op would have drawn attention to himself by publicizing that he had a fairly good mock simulator in his house. If the aircraft has been nicked, its more likely to be via hijacking. Or would you prefer to help eliminate them from the enquiry by checking for any evidence? |
but no two flights/accidents are the same and my job is to prevent another one from happening, not worrying about one I have no influence over. Also. I am taking Cockpit Entry Procedures a bit more seriously at the moment! |
This seems a very clever job. Disappear at handover, change route a couple of times. Disable all communications.
The Malaysians and the US for sure know more than willing to tell the public. Too many smokescreens and confirm/unconfirms of leads. I am pretty sure those satellite images released by error by a Chinese state agency was another smoke screen to win time. 911 has proven the capabilities of Taliban. They know about aircraft. They never claimed the attacks. What about hijacking the plane to a Taliban controlled area in Pakistan? Or more likely just ditch the aircraft in a part of the Indian Ocean being certain it will be hard if not impossible to find? Or was it heading for Karachi or a city in India and shot down? Most passengers were Chinese. Uighur/Taliban terrorist attack? |
so annoying to see these posts about the Capt and his flight sim hobby. What the heck! We fly airplane, love airplane (for most) and many of us have flight sim as a hobby. All these non-aviation people fishing for stuff on here need to use their brain a tiny bit: he's already a T7 captain, he doesn't need a home flight sim to learn how to hijack his own flight.
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According to Shah's friends, he knew the ins and the outs of the Boeing 777 extremely well as he was always practising with a flight simulator of the plane he had set up at his home, Reuters reported. We fly airplane, love airplane (for most) |
Evey_Hammond
How are the professional pilots taking this ongoing story? Is it all that's talked about? Does the not-knowing make you nervous when you turn up for work? As a non-pilot I can hardly begin to image how un-nerving this occurrence must be and I am curious as to how you deal with this on a daily basis I'd say that although it will be a topic for discussion and much speculation, it will be business as usual. |
Its not a crime to have a flight sim
For the love of god, pilots have flight sims,
i am a simply student pilot and i use my flight sim day in a day out practicing and refreshing on procedures and at $700 a nav flight its smarter to practice my navigation on a flight sim with my ipad how do you think a Airline pilot practices? i wonder what the going rate for a 777 per hour is :ugh: i practice aproaches and even emergency situations so that i am ready for when the worst happens "excluding the wings falling off of couse" it is very common place for any pilot to have a flight sim drop the nonsence |
@Brika
The way I understand it, the way the logic works is like this: If (engines running) then { Every half hour { Get (time, direction, speed, altitude); If (engine event) then Get (engine status); Get (other information); Ping (time, direction, speed, altitude, engine status, other information) to recipients; } } But, because the engine status and other information reports have been switched off, what was actually happening was: If (engines running) then { Every half hour { Get (time, direction, speed, altitude); Ping (time, direction, speed, altitude) to recipients; } } On reception by Rolls Royce, this ping is automatically detected as null information and is therefore filtered out, probably with no record. The ping with time, direction, speed, altitude comes from a source other than Rolls Royce. What we know as a consequence of the US analysis is the location at the last ping, its then current time, direction, speed, altitude and when the engines were switched off. There appears to be a gap in time between the last way-station and the reported engine off time. This is because the way-station is in the middle of the ocean. Hence, this does not tell us much. Question: if the routing had been maintained after the last way-station passed, what would be the identity of the next way-station and when would it have been passed? |
@James7 (sorry I cannot find the quote function...)
Ref your post in italics below: "dmba...The idea that pilots would take a plane should surely be the least conceivable on this forum... History is not on your side. Only recently an Ethiopian plane was hijacked by the co-pilot with the Captain locked out. Aircraft landed in Geneva etc.." Also recently (Nov 2013) a LAM Embraer 190 was "hijacked" by the Captain and flown into the ground enroute between MPM and LAD, killing all 27 occupants. http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/5...rashed-11.html Maybe not so inconceivable anymore...? |
it is very common place for any pilot to have a flight sim Some have light airplanes, some fly gliders; most try to forget about all of it on their own time. |
About the 'pings'
Those of you postulating about whether the 'ping' paging addresses from the aircraft's SATCOM system reporting would contain GPS, flight level, speed, heading, etc.....it clearly didn't because it didn't pass over ANY data string. Get it into your heads, as confirmed officially, the airline was not signed up for this aircraft to pass SATCOM data of this type to Boeing.
Why do you posters keep going over the same ground asking about data transfer from the aircraft?! What the plane WAS doing is, nevertheless, continuing to page the (non-contracted into) satellite monitoring system with its 'pings'. Now, if there were two satellites or, better, three which had logged only those pings against accurate time, that would - when all the mountain of data is analysed - provide a position. The continuing repeat 'pings', with known time frequency, would enable the monitoring organisation to extrapolate the heading and speed, and maybe the altitude, for as long as the 'pings' lasted. |
As most incidents have multiple factors. Adecompression with mec fire with multiple bus failures, and in doning oxy masks the oxy bottles were refilled with nitrogen(the ground ones that is) this transfered to aircraft.
They just tried to turn back before being overcome with toxic fumes.Drop to FL295 give best TAS Like UPS and asiana 747s Everything supposition until they find something |
The fact of a commercial pilot with 18000 hrs having a flight simulator set up at home is VERY VERY suspicious indeed. I don't believe it - I'm a knife wielding, gun toting, international suicide pilot - AND I NEVER KNEW IT!!! Seriously though, I'm pleased no one's mentioned the parachutes kept in the flight deck - just in case we decide its a bad day and we've had enough! |
@aterpster and Comanche
I've been flying commercial (747 and AB340s) for longer than I care to admit, and I have a flightsim at home in the basement. Does that make me crazy or a criminal?
Lots of my colleagues fly sims at home, or go to a location near YYZ where they have a near professional grade simulator that one can rent. Simulators allow you to fly situations that you hope you will never encounter in real life, or simply try other virtual AC just for the fun of it. You guys... |
@KenjaDROP
Your statement: Those of you postulating about whether the 'ping' paging addresses from the aircraft's SATCOM system reporting would contain GPS, flight level, speed, heading, etc.....it clearly didn't because it didn't pass over ANY data string. Get it into your heads, as confirmed officially, the airline was not signed up for this aircraft to pass SATCOM data of this type to Boeing. But there were other recipients than Boeing of data transmissions (via ground station or SATCOM). These include RR, who have confirmed that they received the first two normal transmissions. |
bcmpqm
"Could MH370, if it had been flying for 4-5 hours have successfully landed on a 4500' runway at sea level?"
Yes, but it would have to be a real pilot with some practice at same. |
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