Can anyone share more light on the last C-check? What was done.. it would be insightful to know in details.

Having vast experience of dealing with militaries, I've learned one thing: if they keep silence about anything particular, 9 times out of 10 it has nothing to do with classified information. Usually they simply know nothing and trying to hide it behind the smoke screen.

"I don't subscribe to the theory of someone else hijacking the plan because by know the backgrounds of all those on board would have been examined and anyone without a pilot's licence learning to operate a 737's navigational and comms system would be suspicious...."

Agreed.

And besides to hijack a plane from outside the flight deck especially a 777 you would need a while team of people with equipment. Not just to get into the flight deck but to defend and ward off cabin crew and passengers in a counter attack - which after 9/11 would guaranteed.

Also they would have no way of ensuring they could gain control at a time where fuel resources would allow diversion to their chosen destination.

And any attack on the flight deck from out side would have resulted in mayday calls.

The cards are all starting to fall the one way.

Stuffy,

This has been discounted before. (1) Boeing said this particular airframe was not fitted with the specific SATCOM antenna installation that is the subject of the AD, and (2), it would not explain the cessation of ADS-B transmissions.

EDIT: I guess the third point is, the AD is from september and requires inspections, but only becomes effective in April 2014. This means the FAA does not consider it urgent. (Not to mention the nonsense of people becoming unconscious at 13,500 ft.)

Given that an aircraft with over 200 passengers is missing and communications ceased in a "systematic" manner. There can be no doubt that anyone able to do that has to be a suspect. They should all be investigated including house searches and the flight sim could contain information pertinent to the case.

You don't just sit back and wait for the evidence to fall in your lap. You go and find it!

A report says the Americans said that the engines continued to tx data for several hours. Surely Rolls can officially confirm or deny this?

"Just at end of press conference, Transport Minister said:

FAA and NTSB have looked at the Malaysian data and have agreed that the search should continue in both East and West direction"


What he said was that the FAA/NTSB had agreed with their (Malaysian) decision to search in both areas; in other words they (US) also thought it was the right thing to do.

These are the way-points mentioned in the new Reuters article. Obviously the pilot probably didn't go directly over them but probably cut the corner while avoiding Thai airspace.http://i.imgur.com/Ci17JCi.jpg?1

Looking at the ATP drawing of the F/D O2 bottle many pages back, whilst the location is different, the basic installation appears to be very similar to the B767/757.
This aeroplane received base maintenance on 23 FEB - was the crew O2 bottle changed at this point (timex)?One of the checks at installation (and at other maintenance intervals at least on the B76/75) is to check that the large green on/off valve on the bottle top is both open and wirelocked - using the fine copper wire used on some FD guarded switches.
I know from a previous life that bottles have been found not wirelocked and on at least one occasion with the valve shut (and wirelocked) rendering the crew emergency oxygen system U/S. How this reconciles with the press to test and dolls eye on the oxygen mask stowage I know not and they do of course have additional portable oxy bottles on the flight deck - whether the crew (in an emergency situation) would recognise the problem is an entirely different question.
Having undergone chamber training at Boscombe Down many years ago I can only ever remember the rapid recovery once O2 is once more provided and that's when you know its about to happen.
On a different note and not wanting to denigrate a missing crew member
,whilst I am sure that many pilots have flight simulator software on their desk/laptops or iPads I still find it at least unusual or worse strange that a current high hours skipper has a room completely replicated as much as possible to a T7 cockpit.Whatevers been said on this forum thread and at MAS press conferences I cannot believe that the aircrew premises have not been searched by now.
Just a couple of thoughts at a very difficult time.

Both pilots were fully qualified to be sat in that cockpit. Or at the very least, both held an ATPL. What makes you think they needed a "Home flight sim" to do anything untoward that their professional training and experience hadn't already furnished them with the required skills and knowledge for?

Hit your head of the wall all you like Dress, but your demands they check the home flight sim is just and ridiculous and unwarranted and others suggesting they search China for the plane.

Up to know, the only certain truth is a plane is missing. It's transponder stopped transmitting and it's not been seen or heard from since. All else is conjecture.

Can we cease all this talk about hijacking the plane to 'use later'?

If you want to hijack a plane and fly it into a building you do just that and have the element of surprise on your side. You don't hijack a plane, fly it a 1000 miles, land it somewhere then attempt to use it again when the eyes of the world (and every satellite & military asset in the region) are looking for that one plane.

Apart from anything else, how many people do you think would have to be involved in an enterprise like that?

Ok but even the US CIA and Whitehouse have said its a possibility they can't rule out......

There are two separate issues which are being confused. That engine data continued to be transmitted has been denied by all, including now, apparently, RR.

The latest, and separate, issue relates to satellite data. According to US sources, although MH did not subscribe to Boeing's ACARS satellite monitoring system, the aircraft was fitted with the necessary devices which, although not getting connected, would still Ping the satellite every 30 minutes. According to the same US sources, they have access to GPS data altitude and track. Perhaps this was possible as a result of triangulation with multiple satellites, including "Spook" satellites, which may be why specifics are not forthcoming.

If true, we should soon know because, if the pings are every 30 minutes, it should be on the same heading and within 250 nm of the last ping?

Rolls-Royce concurs with Malaysia on missing jet's engine data
 

So no need to look for any evidence of wrong doing then!
Oh hang on, outside of the cockpit (when he is always accompanied) where else can a "Fully qualified" pilot route plan, check fuel consumption, practice disabling equipment?

I'm not alleging anything. I'm saying this should have been investigated by now to dismiss the possibility. Thats what investigations do! :ugh::ugh:

LivesinaField:

I believe the circuit breakers for the CVR and FDR on the 777 are not in the cockpit.

This is where the drama started
 

Post 1389 of this thread

http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/5...ml#post8364395

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v...type=2&theater

What do you see? I see an alarm go off and almost no search, with jackets on. Big bags going through xray.

After Egyptair, Silkair, LAM and the like, would be worth to know if MH 777 flight deck doors can be opened from outside by keycode.

I should imagine there is a key code access to the flight deck. If the FAS type it in, the door alarm goes off and the door will temporarily unlock for a few seconds then re lock so long as the door is in normal mode. If it is in lock mode then the door will not open period.

Pprune Expertise
 

I second GvonSprout's praise of the Pprune community's expertise. Pprune members are putting their collective noodle together to prune down the potential range of incredible scenarios for MH370's disappearance.

While there have been other plane disappearance mysteries, they are only a handful and most have yielded at least a few clues quickly.

The dearth of apparent clues is remarkable here, but Pprune is finding that there certainly are some: a possible radar tracking, ACARS pinging, perhaps cell phone pinging and so forth.

Perhaps the most interesting clue is the stonewalling, obfuscation, contradiction and reversals of stakeholders with access to such information. Certainly they have their military, political, economic and engineering--and possible other--reasons.

Traditionally, the world has come to expect nations to put aside such concerns in the face of disaster. And how much can any of them really be hiding?

The range of their primary radar? If the NSA has everyone's phone records, I'd be surprised if it didn't know what parts of the world are radar covered--or not.

ACARS subscription contracts? Surely pointless bureaucratic fears are mangling the truth here.

And so on. So once again, tip o' the hat to Pprune for doing the aviation community a solid in its role as Sherlock Holmes.

Captain Moody
 

It would seem Eric Moody's suspicion on a smoke screen may have some substance... speaking on Skynews the other day.