Icelandair fires ALL cabin crew
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They’ve announced there will be six pilots on every 757 flight, and eight on the 767s. Presumably including the two in the cockpit. 😀
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I would have failed miserably if I were cabin crew...I mean I would be horrible at it...
in fact, it would have been better if a cabin crew member had my seat than me having their seat.
in fact, it would have been better if a cabin crew member had my seat than me having their seat.
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From RUV (Icelandic media):
"Pilots have received extensive training on the safety of aircraft, co - operation on board and more in their training as pilots. And that training actually covers all the training that flight attendants receive so that they can perform this role well, "says Jens Þórðarson, Icelandair's flight operations manager. "Flight regulations state the manning of aircraft, how many people should be on board in this safety role and there are four on board 757s and six in 767s with us." Are there two in the cockpit plus four? "Yes."
Keeping the pilot's union on side now is pretty key for Icelandair. There fired cabin crew are going on strike on 8th August. That might not seem important, but it means any other staff will be breaking a strike. However, FI have brought back most of their furloughed pilots for this, so it's hard for the pilot's union to complain. Plus I think the pilot's realise Icelandair really might collapse, with no transatlantic hub and inbound tourism capped by the government (people entering Iceland must be swab tested, multiple times for residents, but there is not enough lab capacity).
From RUV (Icelandic media):
"Pilots have received extensive training on the safety of aircraft, co - operation on board and more in their training as pilots. And that training actually covers all the training that flight attendants receive so that they can perform this role well, "says Jens Þórðarson, Icelandair's flight operations manager. "Flight regulations state the manning of aircraft, how many people should be on board in this safety role and there are four on board 757s and six in 767s with us." Are there two in the cockpit plus four? "Yes."
Keeping the pilot's union on side now is pretty key for Icelandair. There fired cabin crew are going on strike on 8th August. That might not seem important, but it means any other staff will be breaking a strike. However, FI have brought back most of their furloughed pilots for this, so it's hard for the pilot's union to complain. Plus I think the pilot's realise Icelandair really might collapse, with no transatlantic hub and inbound tourism capped by the government (people entering Iceland must be swab tested, multiple times for residents, but there is not enough lab capacity).
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Most of this swapping pilots for cabin staff can be hidden behind hand held safety signs and a minimum of service blamed on Covid. Would the passengers even know the difference?
Keeping the pilot's union on side now is pretty key for Icelandair. There fired cabin crew are going on strike on 8th August. That might not seem important, but it means any other staff will be breaking a strike. However, FI have brought back most of their furloughed pilots for this, so it's hard for the pilot's union to complain.
No idea how relevant that is to what's happening at Icelandair...
* I personally found this rather frustrating - especially when I was a younger engineer, I would have liked to get some first hand experience with what the machinists did - but I didn't want to be a scab to do it...
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I would have failed miserably if I were cabin crew...I mean I would be horrible at it...
in fact, it would have been better if a cabin crew member had my seat than me having their seat.
in fact, it would have been better if a cabin crew member had my seat than me having their seat.
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Has your company put you through a full first aid course? Have you received comprehensive training on crowd control and handling passengers in difficult situations? Do you know all the emergency instructions to passengers by memory?
My answer would be no to all of the above.
Has your company put you through a full first aid course? Have you received comprehensive training on crowd control and handling passengers in difficult situations? Do you know all the emergency instructions to passengers by memory?
My answer would be no to all of the above.
Flight crew would need training in meal service and duty free sales as well as the paperwork that the cabin crew have to deal with. More in-depth first aid training would be required as flight crew typically do not deal with medical emergencies.
This would probably take about a week. The authorities might allow flight crew experience to substitute for cabin crew experience to qualify for the senior CC role.
This would probably take about a week. The authorities might allow flight crew experience to substitute for cabin crew experience to qualify for the senior CC role.
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The reason that I would flop as a FA is because I don't like people that much despite them being so cute. lock me in the dark room away from them
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I, for one, have always awe myself at the work ethics of the cc corps in any of the many different airlines I have flown. Quick turn arounds, longer duties than flight crew, heavier monthly rosters than flight crew, their preflight briefing covers so much more memory stuff than ours, they go about their unbelievable amount of checks, procedures and paperworks flawlessly, with spirit, and delivering a smile to hundreds of customers per day. Oh, AND THEY FEED US THE SECOND WE ASK THEM.
I think assuming that because a pilot is above a cc in the chain of command (the one in the OM, not the actual one that happens in the airplane! 🤣
a pilot knows everthing a cc does is having no clew whatsoever of what their job is. Stepping off the pedestal once in a while is a healthy habit.
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Any self respecting pilot better tell them to shove it up their tailpipe.
Crossing the picket line and doing scab work is not going to save an airline with that kind of labor strife.
I hope they don’t plan on flying into the U.S. with paper whipped FA’s.
Crossing the picket line and doing scab work is not going to save an airline with that kind of labor strife.
I hope they don’t plan on flying into the U.S. with paper whipped FA’s.
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Just wait for a bunch of mean spirited people lacking in empathy to come on here and blame the CC for their own downfall and saying they have no right to whinge. Then we can all sleep soundly knowing true equality in the industry has finally been attained.
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Well I think the CC got a much needed wakeup call. It appears quite a few of them (including their leadership) were oblivious to the state of the industry in present times. We will see with the results of the vote whether some sense prevails or not.
