Air Canada A321 landed despite go-around order
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I think the title should be amended to “Air Canada A321 landed despite go-around REQUEST”. ATC can’t order you to do anything once airbourne . They can request and you better have a very good reason to refuse, but refuse you can.
This thread isn’t so much about request vs order, it is about AC once again being somewhat confused what they are supposed to be doing in the last minute of their flights.
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Yeah. The guy who swapped the radios with me was the Capt and he wasn't happy with himself.
We actually had a company policy at the time to have both radios tuned to the appropriate frequency when in the terminal area (starting with Approach or Ground). En route we'd have the second one on 121.5 or company if required. So he managed to switch both radios automatically without thinking about it.
We actually had a company policy at the time to have both radios tuned to the appropriate frequency when in the terminal area (starting with Approach or Ground). En route we'd have the second one on 121.5 or company if required. So he managed to switch both radios automatically without thinking about it.
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Well is a "Go Around:" spoken on the R/T by a Controller an ATC instruction ? Yes it is..
Most national AIPs follow Doc 4444 where it says that in IFR all ATC instructions have to be followed by the crews . I guess it is the same in Canada or in the US.
PIC can of course always decide not to follow an ATC instruction , but he/she will have to explain why afterwards., and if it endangered someone or other aircraft you will be in real trouble.
The reply "unable" comes to mind of course but not really applicable to a Go around I would say.
Most national AIPs follow Doc 4444 where it says that in IFR all ATC instructions have to be followed by the crews . I guess it is the same in Canada or in the US.
PIC can of course always decide not to follow an ATC instruction , but he/she will have to explain why afterwards., and if it endangered someone or other aircraft you will be in real trouble.
The reply "unable" comes to mind of course but not really applicable to a Go around I would say.
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Well is a "Go Around:" spoken on the R/T by a Controller an ATC instruction ? Yes it is..
Most national AIPs follow Doc 4444 where it says that in IFR all ATC instructions have to be followed by the crews . I guess it is the same in Canada or in the US.
PIC can of course always decide not to follow an ATC instruction , but he/she will have to explain why afterwards., and if it endangered someone or other aircraft you will be in real trouble.
The reply "unable" comes to mind of course but not really applicable to a Go around I would say.
Most national AIPs follow Doc 4444 where it says that in IFR all ATC instructions have to be followed by the crews . I guess it is the same in Canada or in the US.
PIC can of course always decide not to follow an ATC instruction , but he/she will have to explain why afterwards., and if it endangered someone or other aircraft you will be in real trouble.
The reply "unable" comes to mind of course but not really applicable to a Go around I would say.