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Ryanair FO faints in flight

Old 1st Sep 2018, 10:58
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And you'd be lucky getting a hot meal on an aircraft that doesn't have ovens......
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Old 1st Sep 2018, 15:45
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LOL Thanks Uplinker - I got a bit tired by the end of my post - very kind of you to have complete empathy with me and check me out!

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Old 1st Sep 2018, 18:17
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Originally Posted by 750XL
If he's incapable of bringing a packed lunch to work then he shouldn't be flying an aircraft.
He shouldn't have to bring his own lunch, it should be provided by the company, like in the real airlines and in the good old times.
750, pilots like you -if you are a pilot- is the reason why the pilot profession is how it is now and keeps going down the tubes.
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Old 1st Sep 2018, 19:33
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Originally Posted by Capn Bloggs
Yep, sign on at 0400 with your (personally made?) chicken/ham/beef/dead fish sambo for consumption at 1200. What is this, the dark ages?
Millions of people across the world manage it so why can't pilots? I can't remember the last time I saw a train driver being served a hot meal in his cab

He shouldn't have to bring his own lunch, it should be provided by the company, like in the real airlines and in the good old times.
Why shouldn't he bring his own lunch?
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Old 1st Sep 2018, 20:15
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Why shouldn't he bring his own lunch?
Equally, why should he have to eat at his desk?
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Old 1st Sep 2018, 20:38
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Originally Posted by arketip
Well, is the OP that jumped to conclusions, saying that it was probably because of lack of food or water.
You're right, may be it wasn't lack of food and/or water. It could have been that he had just received notice that the following day he had to move to his
new base in Krakakistan, at his own expense.

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Old 1st Sep 2018, 20:53
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Originally Posted by Herod
Equally, why should he have to eat at his desk?
Because it's his job
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Old 1st Sep 2018, 21:59
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Whilst I strongly support the fact that all the airlines should provide proper meals to their crew, it is also true that if You do not have any food with You (forgot/left it in the car/last minute stby scramble call) and the airline does not provide it (profit baby) You have to mitigate the adverse effects of low blood sugar by buying some sort of edible junk on board together with a couple bottles of water. I know it is damn annoying and You start swearing as loud as You can but You have to do something about it anyway. By the way, is it confirmed the the poor chap fainted as a result of low blood sugar/thirst ?
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Old 2nd Sep 2018, 04:36
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Originally Posted by 750XL
Because it's his job
You gotta be ****ting me, "Because it's his job?" I think his/her job is to fly the aircraft from point A to point B and safely deliver the passengers there with the added bonus that the aircraft can be used again. His/she is not being paid to eat their meal up the pointy end of a multi million dollar machine filled with a couple of hundred paying passengers. Just ask the train drivers where they eat their lunch and it won't be in a moving piece of machinery.

750XL appears to have the attitude of a former powered student pilot who couldn't go solo and as such moved to gliders. I mean no offence or disrespect to those glider aficionado who take great joy, pleasure and excel in their fine machines. I have met many like 750XL who hung around the aero club on the Sunday night bar sessions who did nothing but rubbish powered pilots because they couldn't make the grade.
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750XL appears to have the attitude of a former powered student pilot who couldn't go solo and as such moved to gliders. I mean no offence or disrespect to those glider aficionado who take great joy, pleasure and excel in their fine machines. I have met many like 750XL who hung around the aero club on the Sunday night bar sessions who did nothing but rubbish powered pilots because they couldn't make the grade.
Youve hit the nail on the head there. He’s a dispatcher/handler (probably Manchester) or the like with an attitude problem. Better he sticks to leftover catering than eats it up front.

He obviously has a thing against crews getting fed, judging by his past posts.

Sacked for a Sandwich...

This poor chap would have done well to drink a coke or two.

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Old 2nd Sep 2018, 06:25
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Originally Posted by sonicbum
By the way, is it confirmed the the poor chap fainted as a result of low blood sugar/thirst ?
No. But "The Range" thinks so, or in alternative is because he received a base transfer, but mainly is just because he works for Ryanair
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Originally Posted by Herod
Equally, why should he have to eat at his desk?
In your airline (or any of the other better airlines) that provide food for their pilots, do the pilots get a seat and table in the back to eat or do they eat at their desk? Or do they get a break to go to the restaurant?
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Old 2nd Sep 2018, 06:40
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Originally Posted by Biggles78
Just ask the train drivers where they eat their lunch and it won't be in a moving piece of machinery.
It often was. Not so much the shiny passenger boys but us rough old freight chaps didn't always have a choice.
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In your airline (or any of the other better airlines) that provide food for their pilots, do the pilots get a seat and table in the back to eat or do they eat at their desk? Or do they get a break to go to the restaurant?
No. I was responding to XL750's comment that he should bring his own lunch. I accept that pilots generally have to eat at their desks, but since they don't have the opportunity to go eat elsewhere (like office workers, shop assistants etc, who get a proper break), they shouldn't have to provide their own food.

I was once with an airline that pushed crews to the duty limit, with no food, and being a small aircraft, meaning that if you brought your own you had to eat it in front of the pax. Six sectors. We got to the stage where crews would get off after sector five, go get something to eat (we weren't unreasonable, just a sandwich and a cup of coffee) and carry on. That put us into discretion. Two crews, two discretion reports a day for two weeks. Crew food was provided.

Now, let's get back to the topic. How is the F.O?
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Old 2nd Sep 2018, 08:28
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Originally Posted by Herod
Now, let's get back to the topic. How is the F.O?
Exactly and also let's try to understand the real cause for such an occurrence in order to learn something out of it and prevent it from (possibly) happening again.
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Old 2nd Sep 2018, 09:44
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Do we know which sector that was? I once had to fly 2 sectors according to the roster on day 5 of earlies. Long week, lunch plans after flight, so I only took a tiny breakfast and a small bottle of water. After we landed we've been told to fly 2 more sectors to STN. Picked up a big delay there. Had no food water or money on me to buy myself stuff in the aircraft. And part of me was to proud and pissed to ask anyone for money to buy at ridiculous high prices.
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Old 2nd Sep 2018, 11:20
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but since they don't have the opportunity to go eat elsewhere (like office workers, shop assistants etc, who get a proper break), they shouldn't have to provide their own food.
What an odd line of logic.
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Old 2nd Sep 2018, 11:32
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This will give you a laugh:

Luas is a tram/light rail system in Dublin

https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dubli...lunch-15094246

The issue of packed lunches for Luas drivers could lead to strike - and may end up costing the taxpayer €250,000.

Siptu has told the Labour court recent work changes linked to the new Cross City Line are costing drivers money because it is more inconvenient for them to bring packed lunches to work.


The trade union representing drivers said anyone starting their day in the Sandyford depot has to take their lunch in Broombridge in Cabra.
This means drivers' lunches spoil because they have to carry their food with them on the Luas for hours, according to Siptu.


Luas operator Transdev has offered cooler bags to tram drivers - but Siptu organiser John Murphy said the union wants Green Line drivers to be able to have their lunch at Sandyford.

Transdev told the Labour Court granting this would mean hiring five new drivers at a cost of €250,000 a year.
However Mr Murphy said refusal could mean that drivers will ballot on industrial action.

The Labour Court said it was reasonable for a Luas driver to be asked take breaks at a different depot to where their shift started.

It recommended that Transdev carry out a risk assessment to find out if the cooler bags “are capable of transporting drivers’ packed lunches safely from one depot to another”.
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Old 2nd Sep 2018, 12:10
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Originally Posted by 750XL
If he's incapable of bringing a packed lunch to work then he shouldn't be flying an aircraft.
Always assuming that said packed lunch is not confiscated by "security" at some point during the day.
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Old 2nd Sep 2018, 12:38
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In all my years as a heavy four jet Captain the company supplied meals on board. All Concorde catering, on china plates and silver plated cutlery.

This is a ridiculous situation and one of the many reasons I quit the airlines after just four years.
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