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Old 29th Sep 2018, 00:11
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Originally Posted by 45989 View Post
Desperation I'd say is right but the PR 'guru' could have learned a lot from a certain propaganda artist of the 1930's. Subtlety was never a ryr strongpoint. A lot to do with despite 'We'll be nice' the culture always shows in the end
O’Leary hired Jacobs to communicate for him. Here’s his message -

“We want people to say, “This is a commoditised, functional experience getting from Dublin to London, from London to Madrid.”
No wonder they’re in such deep trouble. O’Leary should have let the Labrador do his job.

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Old 29th Sep 2018, 10:28
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It’s not an image,” he responded. “It’s real. I’ve always been a nice guy, just misunderstood.”
The words of every thug ever used at their trials. Does Mr.O'Leary realize that ?
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Old 29th Sep 2018, 12:05
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That clown O Leary and his scum management will never stop disrespecting the rights of their pilots, cabin crew and passengers.
Keep on fighting hard and continue with pan-european strikes till you got O Leary on his knees.
The aviation world will be a lot better off without him.
O Lesry its time to leave! Then maybe RYR can really become a copy of Southwest Airlines where both pilots and cabin crew have fine conditions, do their work happy and this will attract even more passengers. 71000 euro base salary vs 200000 us dollar in the US for a low cost captain.
This can only be achieved with staying unionised and don,t give up fighting. Strike, strike and continue strike till you get your conditiins you want and deserve! Good Luck!

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Old 1st Oct 2018, 10:12
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Ryanair's shares plunge

It would have been easier and less expensive if they treated and paid their employees decently.

​​​​​​https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...premium-europe
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Old 1st Oct 2018, 11:58
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This was to be expected. Now clown O Leary and his scum management is closing down Eindhoven as a base after the strike on the 28th of september. He keeps on intimidating his pilots and cabin crew.

All RYR pilots and cabin crew, please don,t give up. Stay unionised and stay united and continue with pan-European strikes.
A few strikes are not enough!
RYR is feeling the financial pain already and passengers are less confident in choosing your airline.
By this O Leary will loose the trust of his shareholders and will finally be forced to leave.

Keep on fighting hard for the better conditions you deserve!
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Old 1st Oct 2018, 21:13
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Not a $ermon, Just a Thought’

RYR is a very compelling distressed equity opportunity with a very robust GDS / 150 Airlines

RYR needs a strategic capital infusion to sooth BOEING & AMADEUS’






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Old 2nd Oct 2018, 04:25
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A LoCo on Amadeus????

Must have been a VERY good deal!
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Old 2nd Oct 2018, 07:09
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RYR to close BRE (2 a/c), and taking 2 of 5 a/c off Weeze.

And naturally, that has nothing to do with strikes, its just because of falling bookings. Most of the routes will be continued though.

IF the EU wants to have any credibility, it has to stop this. Either employees have rights or they don´t.

Source (in German):
https://www.welt.de/wirtschaft/artic...utschland.html

As a reminder:
"It’s not an image,” he responded. “It’s real. I’ve always been a nice guy, just misunderstood.”

I guess, he looses a lot of sleep over the closure of the BRE base.
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Old 2nd Oct 2018, 23:20
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A LoCo on Amadeus????

Must have been a VERY good deal!
Amadeus a couple of years ago bought Navitaire/NewSkies/OpenSkies, the so far de-facto standard reservations system for LoCos and the core of Ryanair's system since 2000 when they really started selling all their seats on the web.
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Old 3rd Oct 2018, 12:38
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Closing BRE and EIN!?

I am wondering what RYR want to achieve by closing BRE and EIN base 5 of November, except for the obvious union busting.
It is quite clear to me though , that this is a severe escalation from RYRs side and will scare away hundreds of FOs ready to upgrade.
Some old Captains are also refreshing the old CV , as we speak.
A rather self destructive move in my book.
But then again what do I know.

Gone Fishing.
Regards Cpt B
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Old 3rd Oct 2018, 12:42
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PS
Brent Oil just hit 85 dollar and will hit 120 if Iran stops exporting.
And Brexit is a crash out , until further notice.
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Old 4th Oct 2018, 06:25
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RYR pilots and cabin crew, keep on with your battle, get unionised and continue to strike!
In the US the unions are much stronger and even a low cost captain makes more than 200000 US dollars per year, plus 15 percent pension pay. At the majors the pay is even higher.

Keep on fighting till O Leary and his bandits will leave the ship.
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Old 4th Oct 2018, 06:37
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These base closures demonstrate more clearly than ever the need for proper local contracts. Closing a base with zero hours contracts is as easy as just rostering you from a new base. Is a zero cost option for the company. Closing a base with local contracts means going through a consultation and a redundancy process plus paying out the legal compensation. Closing a base with local contracts and union representation means entering a negotiation leading to minimising the disruption to employees plus paying above the legal compensation. The more aggressive the behaviour the greater the need for union representation.
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Old 1st Nov 2018, 06:39
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Today, at 1100 CET (1000Z) a judge in the Netherlands will present a ruling on the Ryanair base closure at Eindhoven. The pilot union in NL has asked for a legal ruling in this matter on short notice, because Ryanair claims it can close bases OUTSIDE of Ireland, based on Irish law. The pilot union claims that Dutch law is appliccable at Eindhoven. (implying that a base closure is not possible just like that based on local labor law, workers rights, employer legal responsibility.)
Expect some fireworks, regardless the outcome. Will keep you posted.
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Old 1st Nov 2018, 11:09
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This is going to be interesting: a Dutch judge just ruled that Ryanair may not close its base at Eindhoven. The judge deemed it likely that the base closure was a revenge exercise, pilots must continue to be paid and kept current. I wonder what MOL's next move will be. In Dutch:

https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2018/11/01...ouden-a2753562

https://www.rtlnieuws.nl/economie/ar...asis-eindhoven
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Old 1st Nov 2018, 12:18
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Humpty Dumpty had a great fall
All the King`s Horses and all the King`s Men
Coulden`t put Humpty together again
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Old 1st Nov 2018, 12:22
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This is the actual text of the ruling : (in Dutch)

https://uitspraken.rechtspraak.nl/in...eyword=Ryanair

Highlights:

1. Ryanair has misused its power as an employer, and will be held responsible for its employees
2. If a company has based aircraft and personnel in the Netherlands, dutch labor law will allways be appliccable to those employees.
3. Ryanair must keep the base open/is forbidden to close down in Eindhoven
4. Ryanair must keep the employees employed, and must continue to pay their salaries. If ryanair does not pay up at the end of each month, they have to pay €250.000 euro’s per pilot
5 Ryanair must facilitate that they do not lose their currency/licence. If Ryanair does not facilitate this, they have to pay 50.000 euro’s per pilot

Furthermore, this ruling will be in effect immediately. (uitvoering bij voorraad) In dutch law, this means that Ryanair can appeal, but this ruling will be in effect and all payments have to be made and are legally binding. (Until an appeal judge rules otherwise)

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Old 1st Nov 2018, 12:34
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Brilliant
Does it also say anything about it being illegal to reverse any flights from Eindhovens destinations and serve the routes from the destinations , as for example was planed in Oslo Rygge two years ago, or Billund or Copenhagen or Bremen etc.
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Old 1st Nov 2018, 12:36
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I suppose that is what the Judge could see happening, Eh!?
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Old 1st Nov 2018, 15:23
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2. If a company has based aircraft and personnel in the Netherlands, dutch labor law will allways be appliccable to those employees.
3. Ryanair must keep the base open/is forbidden to close down in Eindhoven
4. Ryanair must keep the employees employed, and must continue to pay their salaries. If ryanair does not pay up at the end of each month, they have to pay €250.000 euro’s per pilot
Just being devil's advocate here in relation to a court assuming authority to tell a European company how to run its business. If, for example, Debenhams, who are in the process of closing lots of stores, have stores in Holland they wish to close will they be in court to be told:

1. If a company has personnel in the Netherlands, dutch labor law will always be applicable to those employees.
2. Debenhams must keep the stores open/is forbidden to close down in Eindhoven
3. Debenhams must keep the employees employed, and must continue to pay their salaries. If Debenhams does not pay up at the end of each month, they have to pay €xxxxx euro’s per staff member
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