Fatigue
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I follow the airline industry. Am a bit concerned about what I'm hearing about pilot fatigue & cumulative sleep debt. EASA rules being regarded by airlines as a benchmark, rather than a threshold. Rules not accounting for reality. Airlines not passing on this info to CAA unless its filed as a MOR. Does this sound about right? Any insight welcome. Thanks!
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There seems to be a journalist with a similar name:
https://uk.linkedin.com/in/victoria-trench-9738254
Victoria Trench
Broadcast journalist at British Broadcasting Corporation
London, United Kingdom Media Production
Broadcast journalist at British Broadcasting Corporation
London, United Kingdom Media Production
https://uk.linkedin.com/in/victoria-trench-9738254

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Perhaps a sabbatical from a cushty little number at the Beeb for a year working Club 18-30 Saturday night HER's would get her all the insight required. We could do with some Cambridge grads to educate some of our livelier pax. ;-)
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Balpa and the European cockpit association will give you lots of information.
Also try Doctor Simon Bennett of Leicester Uni.
https://www2.le.ac.uk/departments/bu.../simon-bennett
Also try Doctor Simon Bennett of Leicester Uni.
https://www2.le.ac.uk/departments/bu.../simon-bennett
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From: Australia
As you can see Victoria, we pilots are (generally speaking) a cynical group of professionals who will passionately protect the image and reputation of the industry when discussing certain issues (dirty laundry) with perceived 'outsiders'.
I'm happy to communicate with you about the matter, but not in an open forum.
If you are the person that some here suggest you are, are you willing to post your email address? Or send it to me via PM.
I'm happy to communicate with you about the matter, but not in an open forum.
If you are the person that some here suggest you are, are you willing to post your email address? Or send it to me via PM.
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No problem really. My airline, a major in HKG historically (although probably not for much longer) with a great safety record, has a safety department which now advocates you should autoland to reduce fatigue risk as a result of management reducing crew composition on longhaul flights.
They can’t put enough Pilots up front, so “No worries, George will take care of the ol’ Gal for ya mate!”.
What could possibly go wrong?
They can’t put enough Pilots up front, so “No worries, George will take care of the ol’ Gal for ya mate!”.
What could possibly go wrong?
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Now that You professional guys do have the opportunity to talk bout fatigue which -obvioulsy- is a problem in todays aviation (which most of the passengers being not aware of), the only thing You do is cry out in panic "journo alert" ... ... .
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I follow the airline industry. Am a bit concerned about what I'm hearing about pilot fatigue & cumulative sleep debt. EASA rules being regarded by airlines as a benchmark, rather than a threshold. Rules not accounting for reality. Airlines not passing on this info to CAA unless its filed as a MOR. Does this sound about right? Any insight welcome. Thanks!
thanks they are suspended now.









