Report says Pilot struck female passenger
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The context IS an operating captain of a scheduled air carrier flight. He rendered himself unfit for further flight duty until such time as pilot management assessed all the circumstances. He is not airline or airport security. He has to be in the right frame of mind to fly the next leg.
A person observes someone attempting serious body harm to another person.
In what reality is it correct for the first person to simply "walk on by" and make no effort to stop the serious bodily harm being attempted?
That some of you seem to think "walk on by" was the correct response says a lot about you, and it's not positive...
In what reality is it correct for the first person to simply "walk on by" and make no effort to stop the serious bodily harm being attempted?
That some of you seem to think "walk on by" was the correct response says a lot about you, and it's not positive...
In my youth, the SOP for dealing with a fight in the back was turn up the pressurization then F/O (me) went back to deal with it. landedmore than once with 1 or 2 duct taped to their seats
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Fear of ending up on YouTube powers your compass? If as reports suggest, one of the combatants was about to do something that could have seriously injured the other, then you have a moral obligation to step in. I understand not all will see it that way, but this isn't some clear cut decision that some who walk away make it out to be. I especially don't understand trying to put it in a context of operating the flight, I'm not going to idly watch as potential serious injuries are rendered simply because I'm to operate the flight.
Fear of ending up on YouTube powers your compass? If as reports suggest, one of the combatants was about to do something that could have seriously injured the other, then you have a moral obligation to step in. I understand not all will see it that way, but this isn't some clear cut decision that some who walk away make it out to be. I especially don't understand trying to put it in a context of operating the flight, I'm not going to idly watch as potential serious injuries are rendered simply because I'm to operate the flight.
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To those of you saying "walk" is the best way to handle this, how would you feel if your spouse, daughter, or sig other had been the one under attack?
Shall we all just walk by?
And to the person who said let the cat fight die of it's own accord... That's rather sexist. Men damage each other bludgeoning with fists, women sometimes cause eye injuries that either take years to heal or never do.
People should never hurt one another, and if you have a chance to stop it, you should.
Part of the problem with public behavior in this reprehensible modern era is that we assume that all problems are somebody else's.
Would I have walked past that?
No.
I would have done something similar, perhaps trying to space them apart a bit first.
But when you see something like this going on in public, you should try to bring those involved back to decorous behavior.
If you walk past and ignore, you've lost all civility.
I'm not playing this card in full, but think about WWII and the effect of just ignoring wrongs right in front of you.
The context IS an operating captain of a scheduled air carrier flight. He rendered himself unfit for further flight duty until such time as pilot management assessed all the circumstances. He is not airline or airport security. He has to be in the right frame of mind to fly the next leg.
I'd hate to think that any responsible, experienced captain would behave differently because he'd just exited an aircraft. And I'd hate to think that any of them would, because they're pilots, just walk past this situation.
You're basically saying "
all this, I'm a pilot, let someone else handle it."Worth pondering, I think.
To those of you who say that he was not acting in "self defence" let me assure you that defence of others, even strangers, has always been covered by "self defence" in every jurisdiction which is based on the English common law.
Of course he did the right thing!
Of course he did the right thing!
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Just like the pilot in the video I'm far more current in the 121 environment than you.
If you wouldn't step in because you're a 121 pilot, the operating pilot, on a DH or any other reason, your moral foundation is in question. You're welcome to watch someone receive a potentially life threatening injury while security or LEOs arrive, that pilot that day wasn't afraid to do something. I guarantee if you were the one getting the beating, you'd be quite happy to have a 121 pilot step in.
Just like the pilot in the video I'm far more current in the 121 environment than you.
If you wouldn't step in because you're a 121 pilot, the operating pilot, on a DH or any other reason, your moral foundation is in question. You're welcome to watch someone receive a potentially life threatening injury while security or LEOs arrive, that pilot that day wasn't afraid to do something. I guarantee if you were the one getting the beating, you'd be quite happy to have a 121 pilot step in.
