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mickjoebill 30th Apr 2017 09:44

Report says Pilot struck female passenger
 
Delta Air Lines Pilot Hits Passenger During Fight at Atlanta Airport (UPDATE: NEW VIDEO OF CONFRONTATION) | TMZ.com

April 21st in Atlanta a Delta pilot intervenes in a scuffle.

A few months ago the focus would have been solely on the feral behaviour of the passengers...

Herod 30th Apr 2017 10:47

They were on the jetway. I would have left them there to get on with it.

aterpster 30th Apr 2017 12:36

He was a fool to have gotten involved in any manner.

bafanguy 30th Apr 2017 12:52


Originally Posted by Herod (Post 9756775)
They were on the jetway. I would have left them there to get on with it.

Precisely. In the current airline environment, I'd have let them murder each other before getting involved.

People like this walk among us every minute and we now get to see them in action because of phone cameras and the internet.

Just another glamorous day at the world's busiest airport. Hilarious !!

scotneil 30th Apr 2017 13:34

scotneil
 
As a teacher, I'd never try to break up a fight involving girl students (get a female colleague to intervene!). This pilot should simply have called Security, who can point a gun at the aggressors if their mere presence isn't enough to stop the fight. I assume these 2 "ladies" were denied boarding ?

DaveReidUK 30th Apr 2017 14:21


Originally Posted by scotneil (Post 9756914)
I assume these 2 "ladies" were denied boarding ?

Or you could read the report, then you wouldn't need to assume.

They were disembarking after a flight.

RAT 5 30th Apr 2017 14:43

Bucket of cold water always works for me.

Rwy in Sight 30th Apr 2017 16:26

I thought the correct thing is to let the fight run its course. A major SOP for me is to look away from a fight or any other bad situation - that any involvement of mine can only give me trouble.

Airbubba 30th Apr 2017 19:02

Update from TMZ (which seems to be a tabloid 'T and A' news site like the Mail and Sun):


The Delta pilot who smacked a passenger and then walked away delivered the punch to get the woman to release a choke hold she had on the woman she was fighting ... at least that's what the airline concluded.

When you watch the video, it's confusing. It appears the pilot almost gratuitously delivers the punch out of frustration and then walks away. But a Delta official tells TMZ the video doesn't show everything, and based on interviews with the pilot, eyewitnesses and information from cops ... the pilot saw the woman in question choking out the other woman. And the pilot did what he could to release the dangerous grip.

As we reported ... the pilot was taken off duty after the incident but put back on the schedule after the airline concluded he did nothing wrong.

Neither of the women wanted to press charges against anyone.
Delta Pilot Hit Passenger to Release Choke Hold | TMZ.com

JumpJumpJump 30th Apr 2017 19:18


Originally Posted by Herod (Post 9756775)
They were on the jetway. I would have left them there to get on with it.

About the most sensible post I have every seen here

hunterboy 30th Apr 2017 22:42

I'm guessing that the pilot wouldn't be able to argue self defense? If the punch would have ended up causing serious injury, I'm guessing real prison time would be a possibility?
Unless it's defending a friend or family, I think he is crazy to get physically involved. Isn't that what police and security staff do?

aterpster 1st May 2017 00:33


Originally Posted by JumpJumpJump (Post 9757178)
About the most sensible post I have every seen here

Essentially what I said several posts back.

Metro man 1st May 2017 01:17

Before intervening to break up a fight, let them knock each other about a bit first. That way they may welcome the intervention once the pain starts and being a bit groggy from absorbing a few punches are less likely to do you any damage.

M-JCS 1st May 2017 07:09

I guess we can all be extremely thankful that we have been overrun by people pointing their mobile phones in every direction so as to provide us with live-action weekly entertainment, while doing absolutely nothing otherwise to render assistance where it is needed. Civilisation as it exists today.

wiggy 1st May 2017 07:52

M-JCS

:ok:

Of course of this pilot had done the prudent thing and walked past the cat fight the footage would probably still have made it to the networks and into the internet, no doubt entitled something like have been "shock as pilot refuses to intervene in passenger disagreement" or similar, and we would again be festooned with comments about captains rights and responsibilities with regard to law and order.

RAT 5 1st May 2017 08:07

I think you'll find, if the altercation was in the jetway, and in the context of intervention, any pilot would be just a member of the passing pubic with no more, or less, power than that.

wiggy 1st May 2017 09:02


any pilot would be just a member of the passing pubic with no more, or less, power than that.
You know that, I know that, but .......................

springbok449 1st May 2017 09:21

Why would he want to get involved? A bit like some of the guys that you see micromanaging the whole operation and then missing the big picture...

Euclideanplane 1st May 2017 09:48

Because when you observe someone injured, or in some way physically threatened, you are not supposed to just walk away with your nose high in the sky, especially if there is no apparent danger posed to yourself? :rolleyes:

RAT 5 1st May 2017 09:53

Take it out of the context of Prune & Pilots, and the crew/passenger relationship, and ask what you would do if this happened on the pavement outside your house. Would no-one intercede? Certainly not if they were 2 kids.


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