Malaysian Airlines MH370 contact lost

[mightyauster]

Is it possible for the 777 in question to fly to full endurance, i.e. fuel exhaustion, without any manual intervention?

Yes. The fuel system is very simple. The engines feed from the centre tank first and then from their respective wing tanks, in the normal configuration, with no action necessary from the crew.

[Gamebeater]

Why The Evasive Answer?

In this latest presser the journalist asked a simple question whether there was evidence MH370 actually passed through the waypoints after turn around. The response was to say that "we are concentrating our efforts on finding the aircraft." In other words no answer to what should be data available to the investigation and important to our understanding. Why the evasion?

[LadyL2013]

The press should be ashamed of the way they behaved at the end of that press conference.

[Wannabe Flyer]

I get the impression they know its crashed with no survivors.

Pretty sure most have discounted the shadow takeover theory with it being hidden in some remote location with all alive for some other use someday....!!!

Bigger question remains where are the remains.

[Sheep Guts]

Space Jet,

I get the impression they know its crashed with no survivors.

They just said during the press conference "our focus is to find the aircrafts black box and we have the team who found the AF447 black box in KL now to see what recovery assets they have"

Also they cleverly diverted everyone's attention from the South China Sea. Have they really stopped searching in the South China Sea? So more developments to come I think.

[OleOle]

Correct ?

The possible routes in the AMSA maps show that NTSB is convinced MH370 didn't head due south, i.e. south pole could not have been the final waypoint. Otherwise the routes should be parallel to the meridians.

[Alloa Akbar]

BBC News - Missing Malaysia plane: 10 theories examined

Several references to "Forum" speculation.. beware the Journo's

Personally, I am still struggling with the concept that in this day and age, 247 Tonnes of mixed metals travelling at 500 Kts can just vanish without a trace.. The whole thing stinks in terms of lack of a cohesive multi national SAR mission, lots of politics, agendas and reluctance to divulge info.

In terms of speculation and conspiracy theories, well who would have thought that a bunch of folks would hijack a few planes and fly into skyscrapers in the USA?? Nothing would surprise me here.

[dicks-airbus]

@APLFLIGHT: Makes sense to me. From what is known, I would bet on it being the most likely scenario.

No surprise: "and that between Rolls-Royce, Boeing and the U.S. government, officials know a lot more than has come out."

Surprise: "When the Israeli defense forces, when they increase their defense alert, they must know something,” McInerney said.

[Northern Hawk]

Derivation of AMSA search area?

First off, thanks for your excellent post (#6078) @suninmyeyes. Long on facts, short on fantasy...just the way it should be.

My question to the board: the AMSA search area is now but 3% of the total 'southern arc' search area. I gather that this is due to the the focus on the route scenarios provided by the NTSB. Anyone know how these were derived? Simple 180° header south from the Bay of Bengal x fuel? Computer modelling of various sets of satellite ping arc data? Anyone know?

[dicks-airbus]

@Wannabe Flyer: Read today that Allianz has started insurance payouts.

[Wannabe Flyer]

@DA

Wow thats fast and premature, are your sure that is not the interim relief that MH provides?

Over and above this people do take out life insurance policies and any bizarre amounts or coverage usually needs some investigation.

[OleOle]

Insurance

Vermisste Boeing: Allianz zahlt für den Flug MH 370 - Versicherungen - Unternehmen - Handelsblatt

- 100 milion $ to be paid
- paying for airframe as well as to families
- all payments will be made this week
- it seems to be a standard clause for airline insurances, that money is paid rapidly, independent of the cause

[Golf-Mike-Mike]

Originally Posted by funfly

The Sky reporter should be criticised for being part of this press mob.

I think the pictures of the authorities man-handling family members back into the hotel room, where they're effectively held under house arrest, is rather more disturbing

[MartinM]

Hmm. What happens with the payment the insurance company made, if the plane and the passengers show up?

[mixture]

I think the pictures of the authorities man-handling family members back into the hotel room, where they're effectively held under house arrest, is rather more disturbing

They're not under house arrest.

I'm sure they are being well briefed, and its for their own good that they are being kept away from the savage journalists !

If I were in their position I'd probably want someone keeping the media well away from me too !

[Hornbill88]

Later waypoints

There are only a few facts available and all else is speculation that is not proven to be right so far.

One of the "facts" that has been circulating for some time is that the a/c turned at two or more waypoints after IGARI. At the press conference just now someone asked what was the evidence for this "fact". The head of the CAA blatantly evaded the question replying that the emphasis is on searching for a/c, ie I think indicating that there is no evidence. As previously noted here, the origin of this "fact" is Reuters quoting an unnamed source.

Part of the problem is that interesting facts only emerge under questions from journalists. If the journalists don't ask the right questions, facts don't emerge.

I don't altogether blame the Malaysians for this. The more they tell, the more we will want. Perhaps we should just leave them to get on with their job.

[Skillsy]

Burning the witch

Many eons ago, when the community couldn't understand why the crops had failed for the second year running, the river had dried up or some village immaculate conception had occurred, we needed solace, normally in the shape of a witch, burnt at the stake We don't appear to have traveled much beyond this.

The community stills appears to require a witch when events cannot be understood and we appear have a coven of four in this instance.

Initially we had the mad Malay witch which couldn't produce the evidence required. This witch grew with impatience to cover the whole of South East Asia.

Next witch on the block (well stake) was the FO. Obviously not up to the task, he was ripe for a bit of kindling. However why have a FO witch when you can have a captain and he has a flight sim.
Oh NO he hasn't,
Oh YES he has murmur the ever deepening crowd.

Finally we have an onboard engineering witch, not as potent as a captain witch which was disappointing for the amassed crowd but a way a select few can knowingly nod, probably the FO and Captain collective no doubt.

Is it time we got back to thinking that the crew may have attempted to save the aircraft due to another reason or is that just not plausible or interesting?

[Carjockey]

Innocent Until Proven Otherwise?!

A profound glimpse into the mentality of the Malaysian authorities...

"I would like to take this opportunity to state that the passengers, the pilots and the crew remain innocent until proven otherwise. For the sake of their families, I ask that we refrain from any unnecessary speculation that might make an already difficult time even harder,'' he added.

Malaysia says no sighting of MH370 in Maldives, people on board innocent till proven otherwise

[TWT]

Some data had been deleted from the flight simulator found at the home of the pilot

Yes,cache deleted in early February.Doesn't prove or disprove anything.Maybe the hard drive was getting full.Next....

[Alchemist1]

Are you kidding?

If it weren't for a WSJ article that they DENIED (?!) for functionally semantic reasons, for an entire day, the world would probably still be searching by LKP.

They contradict data almost daily.

Newspaper leaks have generally preceded the allocation of SAR assets.

Utter gong show.