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Old 20th Apr 2001, 11:58
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No I'm not surprised the May roster is late, but I don't really think we can blame it on RM, that is just this months excuse in a long line of excuses that we have been getting every month for most of the past year!
Rumour has it that the rosters have just come out, so now we just wait for all the roster changes to be made each week.
 
Old 20th Apr 2001, 14:23
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Now where have we heard all this before, people seeking legal advice, low morale, staff are always guilty, pathetic attempts at restoring morale by saying things that should be taken for granted, there is only so much money in the pot etc etc.
So lets all put our heads together and find the link from Bm to Gb.
Difficult one eh!!!!
Retire now and give everyone a break!!
 
Old 24th Apr 2001, 13:17
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Looks like a planned recent trip to Nantes to recruit French Cabin Crew by the almighty Cabin Services lot had to be cancelled due to a lack of interest by the French!

Seems like the word is eventually spreading that the pastures on the slopes of Silicone Valley are not as green as they are made out to be!

Beam her up to the planet she came from and let her cause havoc from afar.





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Old 25th Apr 2001, 13:19
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Phew !
I was considering applying based on the ad and (out)dated knowledge of the company being a pleasure to work for.
It doesn't take long for things to turn to rat****.
 
Old 25th Apr 2001, 15:08
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I have recently graduated from Oxford and currently seeking my first flying job. GB has always been and still remains the only airline I have ever wanted to fly for.

I would be more than willing to swap with any of you guys who seem to be so unhappy working for them.

You dont know how lucky you all are in having a job in the first place...
 
Old 25th Apr 2001, 15:28
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mach2000

'GB has always been and still remains the only airline I have ever wanted to fly for.' Why?
Wouldn't mind a job with them, but recently got turned down (not even an interview). And I've got 750 EFIS hours and a full 509 course... What does it take to get a jet job these days? Seems the only way is to have a rating.

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Old 25th Apr 2001, 17:10
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Well chaps from what I've heard over the last couple of weeks on prune its' a blessing in disguise that I wasn't offered a position with GB afterall!
 
Old 25th Apr 2001, 19:05
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I'll swap with you unlucky people, too. It's suprising what a person can put up with when looking for a first job.

What's the worst that can happen? I'd be flying an A320 for a living. There's a lot of instructors reading this believing they could put up with any of the above alleged nonsense for that opportunity. And I'm sure we could. Afterall, scraping the odd hour here and there in a Cessna for pittance and no financial stability soon palls.

That said, there are always airline pilots aching to get back into a light aircraft and actually fly; especially you Airbus guys.

Swap you any day.

[This message has been edited by Ivan Ivanovich (edited 25 April 2001).]
 
Old 25th Apr 2001, 21:57
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Slippery must love you guy's - do anything for a job!! Been there, read the book and tasted the stew. Utmost sympathy - I would have gone to Vietnam to fly!! It does not need to be like this, us guys that have been around a bit can spot the slime in avation (like all careers) and would like to get rid of the crap that destroys it. Believe me we would all like you to have a smooth transition into the best career in the world, if it means working for crap you have to do it!! We don't want you to, advantge taking meglomanaics like slippery do not have a place. Has anybody printed this thread and sent it to the MD at GB? Lot's of people wanted to work for GB - whats gone wrong - not rocket science!!!!!!!!!!
 
Old 25th Apr 2001, 23:04
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By all the ups and downs I've read on this thread, I hope that I'm still welcome aboard your June 15 flight LGW-FAO. I don't know what the internal problems are, but I have received nothing but excellent top-notch treatment in the past four years from you guys.

 
Old 25th Apr 2001, 23:29
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Mach2000,

For what reason would you be soooo interested in flying for GB? This airline is the ONLY one you would ever want to fly for? Is your response a wind-up?

Perhaps you could explain yourself - why fly for GB versus the others (especially considering all of the negative comments in this and other posts)? Detailed reasons...

 
Old 25th Apr 2001, 23:43
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i believe its because mach is from gib....
 
Old 26th Apr 2001, 00:23
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You`re lucky to have a job blah blah blah. I`d do anything to fly a jet blah blah blah. If you don`t want it I`ll have it blah blah blah. I`m sure the folks at GB now see the error of their ways and will knuckle down, thank their lucky stars and do as management bloody well tell them.!
 
Old 26th Apr 2001, 04:12
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From what I know of GB Airways, all the crews are of the highest calibre, a good airline, excellent track record, high standards, on time performance last year second to none and still making a profit!

Slippery is NOT GB Airways any more than he was British Midland. Do not let one or more individuals colour your view. Inevitably these people get what they deserve, it may just take longer than you wish.

Stick with it, slippery can't be a day under 70. He must retire soon, surely?

GB Airways? I would cut off my right arm to be there if it wasn't for you know who.

It could be worse guys, you could be at BMI.

 
Old 26th Apr 2001, 06:14
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On a serious note, it`s sad to hear that the troops at GB are feeling let down. Several years ago a captain from GB got me through perf A and a couple of years ago I flew with them as a One World, non revenue employee for an affiliate airline and was totally blown away by their standard of service. The flight was delayed due to a catering cock-up but the captain came back to the cabin and personally spoke with each and every passenger, explained the situation and gave us the option to leave without meals or wait for the catering contractors to get their act togeather. I would hate to think that they would ride rough shod over an inspirational employee like him.!
 
Old 26th Apr 2001, 11:34
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Any flight crew out there willing to state what the package etc is like?? Salary, pension, loss of licence, private health care? Hours flown per annum, time realistically to command. When are the 737's going in favour of Airbus?? Genuine enquiry! (sounds like a lonely hearts!!!!)
 
Old 27th Apr 2001, 16:01
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"el llanito".....You are quick at making assumptions!!
If what you say is right then you and I have many things in common!!

[This message has been edited by mach2000 (edited 28 April 2001).]
 
Old 29th Apr 2001, 11:29
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I cannot believe how much the pilots at GB whinge. How about some support for the rest of the crew.

In the last three months alone we have seen some of our most senior Pursers shafted.

Now the target is the most reliable hardworking and loyal group of cabincrew GB has ever employed.

Does this mean we are no longer planning to fly to Portugal. I can only assume no more Funchal Faro Lisbon or Porto flights this winter.

The plan to recruit more French speakers seems very sound as we have an extensive French route network, NOT! THe rumour is that the hardworking folks had a well deserved break from causing havoc at GB, in NTS, and managed to sign up not one new crewmember. C'est la vie.


[This message has been edited by PPRuNe Towers (edited 29 April 2001).]
 
Old 29th Apr 2001, 15:29
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if you newly qualified guys actualy read what has been said you would realise that the thread is aimed at experienced pilots, it has been said that if you are inexperienced then GB would be fine. Perhaps you inexperienced guys desperate for a job could help yourselves and GBs profitability by offering to fly for flying instructor wages as it appears that flying jets is your main ambition, or are you not that desperate and consider that you should now employed under good terms and conditions?Unfortunately this attitude of "I would do anything..." detracts from the aims of the many pilots who having also spent considerable time and money getting qualified, wish to recover some of the vast expense. The statement "should be grateful for a job..." is insulting to many pilots in GB who are employed for their many years of experience and expect to be treated accordingly. Many pilots in GB have built up their experience through lower paid turbo prop jobs and would not appreciate their current terms and conditions to be degraded further by inexperienced pilots joining straight onto jets just because they "will do anything". As far as the cabin crew are concerned the pilots appreciate the poor deal that they get and do support them but the cabin crew for many years just sat back and could not get themselves organised. The pilots may moan a lot about their own treatment, but though most pilots welcome involvement from the cabin crew, this is primarily a PILOTS forum, providing info for pilots.

[This message has been edited by golum (edited 29 April 2001).]
 
Old 29th Apr 2001, 19:55
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Excuse me for enquiring , but what are the main gripes with the current situation at GB.

I am interested in GB, but I'm a little concerned that I might be jumping out of one frying pan and into an alternative fire.

Any comments will be appreciated.
 


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