if you newly qualified guys actualy read what has been said you would realise that the thread is aimed at experienced pilots, it has been said that if you are inexperienced then GB would be fine. Perhaps you inexperienced guys desperate for a job could help yourselves and GBs profitability by offering to fly for flying instructor wages as it appears that flying jets is your main ambition, or are you not that desperate and consider that you should now employed under good terms and conditions?Unfortunately this attitude of "I would do anything..." detracts from the aims of the many pilots who having also spent considerable time and money getting qualified, wish to recover some of the vast expense. The statement "should be grateful for a job..." is insulting to many pilots in GB who are employed for their many years of experience and expect to be treated accordingly. Many pilots in GB have built up their experience through lower paid turbo prop jobs and would not appreciate their current terms and conditions to be degraded further by inexperienced pilots joining straight onto jets just because they "will do anything". As far as the cabin crew are concerned the pilots appreciate the poor deal that they get and do support them but the cabin crew for many years just sat back and could not get themselves organised. The pilots may moan a lot about their own treatment, but though most pilots welcome involvement from the cabin crew, this is primarily a PILOTS forum, providing info for pilots.
[This message has been edited by golum (edited 29 April 2001).]