GB Airways good or bad
 

New advert in flight , but whats the feeling with the troops ?

Is it worth a jet captain to leave his present crap employer , to join ?

how about command prospects?

What about the training dept ?

Don't know much about the company but I can say that the new B737 fleet manager (an ex. colleague) is truly a top chap !!

Great crews, dreadful management. Crews treated like sh.. "Company provide transport to the Aircraft...." but at end of the flight transport only when it is convenient to the company, ie 1hr + wait at LHR as A/C does not turn straight around so must wait for transport bringing up next crew. despite several claims the PHI scheme has never paid out for a pilot, all other staff covered if unable to carry out own occupation, pilots if unable to carry out ANY occupation! much inhouse fighting, new fleet mgr taken on to reinforce one management side against the other. Prospects limited but may be ok if your face fits. Training varied, some trainers, some trappers, some just poor. if you are looking for a first jet type rating then ok, otherwise keep well clear (why else are so many leaving).
"The floggings will continue until moral improves!"

Judy,
Please correct me if I'm mistaken, but with all your previous postings on GB, I thought your question rather rhetorical?

You really have got to laugh.Has the industry got to such a state that one of the advertised 'perks' is transport to the aeroplane?!!B/rgds.

The previous comments are chickenfeed compared to a recent incident when a passenger claimed that one of our girls allegedly swore at him.

Silicone Valley called the girls in and said if they didn't own up, she would send their photograph from their personal file to the passenger so that he could identify them!

Talk about a total breach of dignity and Human Rights!

Two of the crew have subsequently resigned and the remaining are taking legal advice.

This madam should be made to answer for this and do the dignified deed and resign.

Hadn't heard that one Flo'........If it's true then they really have sunk to new depths.

Still think Judy is one of us though!

Come on Judy, I think we should be told!

I said it before and I'll say it again...As a pax, I've always had great flights with GB on the London/Malaga route. Special thanks to the ass't purser on 2981 AGP/LGW on the 16th....you know who you are, and yes, I'll see you again...

I think you mean 6981........Glad to hear you enjoy travelling with us.

Our cabin crew really make the difference-Don't undertsand why they are so badly treated and managed (if you can call it that) when this is the case.

Come on Judy-tell all!

I can vouch for what Florence said above - disgraceful treatment of cabin staff. Seems like every other crew I fly with has a pilot working his notice to go off elsewhere. They seem to be p**d off about time to command, crap pay and poor management.
Apparently there are some more contract/direct entry commands on the Airbus at the end of the year.

Must fly!

Seems from what I have heard that GB is like any other airline but with a bit more stability in the rostering department. I think you'll find with most airlines that management appear to be disorganised and that pilots are leaving for pastures new. Take your pick but I don't see why GB is getting such a bad airing on prune?

Hardass

Shame about having to wait for the inbound transport for 1 hour at LHR.... Its a hard life.
You could always get on the LHR-LGW Coach instead or are you too important to travel with normal people??
Why don't you suggest the outbound transport comes up earlier and they can sit around instead?
That sort of hardass attitude does your clan no help
OC

OC-What are you on?

Sorry OC not personally guilty I don't do those flights but those who do, are complaining about the extra wait at the end of their duty day, before they spend another hour or two on the M25. I just go to the hotel at the end of a long nightflight to be told that I can't have breakfast as the company don't pay for breakfast just the room! but why should the guys pay to travel on the bus when GB advertise transport to and from the A/C as a perk? maybe you think it is a perk, if so you should apply to GB you will fit in well with the management!!!!
don't judge others by your standards, we are all just ordinary folk who will travel with anyone (after all we do work for GB), but at the end of a flight we are not interested in sitting on the ground on an aircraft, if that is your thing then GB is for you!!

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Here here!
Now are we LGW based or LHR based?

How about a voyage rate for flights out of LHR?

Even better-how about an LHR basing and an LGW base!!

I'll beleive it when I seeit. As for no brekkie-just read FCOs-it's their responbility and BALPA should have it sorted by now.

blended winglets, I don't know where you hear things but GB don't know what roster stability is, though they are trying in that they think if the roster is late enough then there won't be as many changes!! on checking this PM still no roster for May!!!!

I've not got my May roster yet either although they're supposed to be out on the 15th.

Beano

Are you surprised that the May rosters aren't out yet? Don't be.....

Apparently, the new system, RM, has been with the company for 18 months now, and due to bad planning and a lot of bullsh...ng from Slippery, it has still not got off the ground.

The monthly support fees for this system are, from hearsay, a lot of money that has been going down the tube on a regular basis. I wonder what the Directors have to say to that?

Rumour has it that Slippery is so happy hashing things up and recking the airline that he has decided to stay for another 5 years!

Goodness knows how we have survived under the present regime and let's hope common sense prevails and this gentleman departs soon!

To return to Judy's original question, Good or Bad the answer is both.

had you joined 18 months ago the answer would have been undoudtedly good. Since then we have seen the emergence of the gang of three, Slippery, Silicon and Sell-by all of whom enjoy(ed) the unquestiong support of a new M.D. Now that Sell-by has gone we were hoping for a fairer personnel dept. so far bitter disappointment.

2 years ago we were a happyish profitable optomistic bunch with the nicest atmosphere amongst the crews of any airline I have worked for, both charter and scheduled. This shower of **** that have been with the company 10 minutes seem to have destroyed all that some of us gave a considerable amount of our lives to building.

At least your (pilot) management actually fly the line and acknowledge the presence of the folks behind the cockpit door, they even know our names. Our management seem to be waging open warfare against us. We are fed up with being screamed at by the petulent child some plonker put in charge. I believe there are at least 7 grievances filed against her. We all know how she got that job don,t we William.It looks to me that if you have been with the company through its most successful years you are finished. The only chance for promotion now is to have worked for British Midland.

Cabin Crew rostering is a complete shambles, flights not crewed properly endless standbys, endless disruption, flights leaving late due to(cabin) crew shortages result: dissatisfied passengers. In working for 4 airlines Scheduled and Charter I have never seen such chaos.

I am surprised the owners stand by and watch this happen to us. Shows what they really think of their long-term employees.

GB Airways 18 months ago - the best Airline in the UK. Now just another c****y company.

I am off, had enough you decide who is the weakest link bye-bye.