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Old 25th Aug 2013, 19:09
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Love the part about Spanish ATC recommending FR better English for there flight crew
There/their? Better English? Benefit of the doubt - typo.
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Old 25th Aug 2013, 19:09
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Being in possession of level 6 does not mean you have an accent or pronunciation authentic. I can assure you that many British citizens have a pronunciation or accent that does not deserve a level 6. But of course ... as they will give you a level below 6 being British, right?

Many people fron UK or USA do not vocalize well and understand them is a problem. Looks like they're chewing gum when speaking or hiccuping.

Paradoxically, they should set a good example.
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Old 25th Aug 2013, 19:18
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Rat, imagine the fury and frustration in the management if they were forced to employ everyone properly. Just what sort of deal do you suppose they'd offer? it certainly wouldn't be to the employees' benefit, would it?
...??? So if found illegal it's still better to leave it cause MoL might get cranky? Are you serious?
If they have to employ directly it will still have to be at the rate that people are willing to do it for, don't you think?
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Old 25th Aug 2013, 19:23
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Yes. And most of the newbies are willing to do it for nothing.

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Old 25th Aug 2013, 20:01
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Such as this one for instance?

Self funded type ratings A320 or 737 Classic + 500 hours on type with Brookfield Aviation International Ltd | 1401369591

Note under "salary" it states "No salary on offer"

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Old 25th Aug 2013, 20:53
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Originally Posted by sky 9
In that case why do the IAA continue to provide an AOC to the company? I'm sure if what Ryanair are doing was illegal under EU rules, the IAA would tell them to change their employment policy or withdraw their AOC.

Ireland has become the airline equivalent of the dodgy ship registrant haven of Liberia. The Norwegian Long Haul 787 operation is considering moving its headquarters there due to Ireland's rather liberal work laws, and the ease with which an airline can deal with labor. Apparently Norway has some rather strict laws that protect its workers.

Ireland - Liberia for airlines.
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Old 25th Aug 2013, 21:44
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When he speaks of dodgy ships with such gusto I can almost smell his battery burning.
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Old 26th Aug 2013, 01:23
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If a Mayday is declared, then a MOR will/should have to be completed. The details will have to be made available to the relevant aviation authority I reckon the Spanish are getting a bit fed up with RYR these days. The next step would be for the Spanish to enforce an additional fuel reserve on RYR aircraft entering their airspace should a repeat occur as it seems the IAA are happy with the situation.
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Old 26th Aug 2013, 09:45
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I reckon the Spanish are getting a bit fed up with RYR these days.
The Spanish will see a lot less of MOL in the future. RYR plugged the gap left by the demise of Spanair knowing full well that within two years that gap (internal Spanish flights) would be plugged anyway by AVE trains. This has come to pass. MOL will close most of his Spanish internal flights over the next two years and put his planes elsewhere - as, I am sure, was his intention. This morning I saw a Euromed train from Alicante to Barcelona doubled up - thats 16 cars, and I'll bet most of those seats were taken.
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Old 26th Aug 2013, 10:09
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To be fair he did address this question, and the similar one with Beauvais Marseilles versus TGV. The train was twice the price and he claimed he was attracting a different type of pax. You can work on the train and comfort is at a premium of older, wealthier more business orientated pax. He claimed he could still compete. We shall see.
What did happen to Paris Marseilles? Does it still fly?
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Old 26th Aug 2013, 11:25
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Does the Ryanair fuel policy take into account the price differential between airports. I know that tankering isn't "green" however taking some extra fuel at zero cost would seem to me a prudent action to take by the commander; or is it all about being top of the fuel league?
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Old 26th Aug 2013, 12:06
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Does the Ryanair fuel policy take into account the price differential between airports. I know that tankering isn't "green" however taking some extra fuel at zero cost would seem to me a prudent action to take by the commander; or is it all about being top of the fuel league?
Certainly when I flew for said Company fuel was tankered when appropriate like every other operator I know of.
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Old 27th Aug 2013, 13:37
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To be fair he did address this question, and the similar one with Beauvais Marseilles versus TGV. The train was twice the price and he claimed he was attracting a different type of pax. You can work on the train and comfort is at a premium of older, wealthier more business orientated pax. He claimed he could still compete. We shall see.
Spanish Railways in the shape of Renfe and AVE are actively competing with the airlines. In part this has been encouraged by the EU who have funded high speed railways in Spain in order reduce the number of internal flights and thus the carbon footprint, as well as provide a viable trans-European HST freight structure. Most AVE intercity fares now match or undercut the equivalent air fares.
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Old 29th Aug 2013, 22:08
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MOL explains all at Swedish press conference. See the video here:-

SN-TV: "Vi kan inte stämma SN" - Nyköping - www.sn.se

Loved the bit at about 11:00 from the start


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Old 30th Aug 2013, 01:09
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Unless youve worked for Ryanair you won't fully understand the issue the pilots are trying to raise here.

The issue is not whether the airline is safe or not its the fact that many of the people who work there (and not just flight crew) believe that the management culture is unsafe.

Ive worked there and I had some concerns about some of the things that happened but I would not have felt comfortable raising them through the official company channels. For a start raising any issue would immediately mark you out as a troublemaker and your report would inevitably end up on the desk of the person with the ability to decide if you got a pay rise that year, what shift you would be working, what base you would be transferred to in the winter and the ability to make your life hell.
I would not have felt comfortable raising my concerns directly with the IAA either as many of my former managers in Ryanair have now found a home there and I have absolutely no doubt that my correspondence would end up back on the desk of the person I refer to.
In Ireland we dont have Whistleblower legislation to protect people who go public on matters like this so that leaves very few options.
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Old 4th Sep 2013, 23:10
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The secret is out for the count now?

I have waded through this thread and the Spectators thread a few times and I recall one poster made a fleeting reference to the fact that the IAA seem to have permitted perhaps sometime in the last 12 months that onboard passenger headcounts are no longer necessary.

I know that failed headcounts caused delays - I witnessed it many times.

I am very surprised that the solution to these unwanted delays is that headcounts simply stopped.

Anyone have a good perspective on this ? Apologies if it has been raised/debated previously on PPRuNe.
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Old 4th Sep 2013, 23:34
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The IAA wouldn't be the first jurisdiction to permit it. Provided that the operator has a boarding pass verification system that ensures that all passengers who have checked baggage have in fact boarded, some jurisdictions have allowed operators to eliminate the need for a head count.
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Old 5th Sep 2013, 00:22
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One issue with that procedure especially in some places where you park on the apron not using a boarding-gate leading the passenger directly to the aircraft door.Must be far more likely having the bag without pax scenario there.

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Old 5th Sep 2013, 08:07
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Originally Posted by slip and turn
I have waded through this thread and the Spectators thread a few times and I recall one poster made a fleeting reference to the fact that the IAA seem to have permitted perhaps sometime in the last 12 months that onboard passenger headcounts are no longer necessary.
- by no means uncommon,S&T. BA stopped doing them years ago - probably before 2000.
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Old 5th Sep 2013, 11:35
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So how do we know that passengers who have checked in baggage actually board the flight if they can get as far as the apron and then wander off unchallenged and leave the airport via another route e.g. via the stand next door at airports like Stansted or round the corner and over the fence at many smaller European airports?

For example, I was at little ol' Zadar this summer and could perhaps have stepped over a few plant pots straight from the melee joining one low cost flight straight into the airside outside coffee shop terrace i.e. having had my boarding pass slip taken, and then used another boarding pass to board another flight. As it was, I made a mistake because I was taking a domestic flight and after passport control (which is after security of course) and walked into the international lounge.

To show how easy it might have been, I even had a coffee on that terrace and watched proceedings as I was early, but then realised that a queue was forming in another waiting area adjacent which I could see through glass. So I walked back to passport control - did a double take at a hand made notice that said "<-- Zagreb flight" and walked completely unchallenged from one to the other. Could I not have checked a bag on the international flight and then done exactly as I did eventually and used a domestic boarding pass to catch another flight?

This was all in the EU of course - it's a big place these days!

And that reminds me, what about that other Ryanair/Swissport (Stansted) practice of farming the gate queue to pre-check boarding passes so that when you actually DO go through the gate they don't have to check just take the slip they want? And given the proximity of other flight queues, and kerfuffles that occur with arguments at that immediate vicinity of the gate (now hitherto perhaps known as the 'slip and turn' collection point? ) about size of bags and excess baggage charges of what is it, up to £120* for one late-checked bag high season ?!!!!, surely there is plenty of scope for to-ing and fro-ing around the gate given that such heated distractions as can occur, may not be so uncommon?

As with many of these new cost saving ideas I think we are gambling, and treating passengers and crew as unwitting guinea pigs to risks that may not have been completely thought through ...

*Edit: I think it might now be up to £130 actually - remind me not to be so brave as to try to take a slightly big cabin bag to Tenerife

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