Tiger Australia grounded by CASA
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"Australia is an aviation Galapagos, with all sort of strange mutations developing in splendid isolation".
The Australian aviation laws are as good an example as you can get, by word count or volume, they are incontestably the world's "biggest and best" , and they mean whatever your CASA FOI or AWI wants them to mean.
The Australian aviation laws are as good an example as you can get, by word count or volume, they are incontestably the world's "biggest and best" , and they mean whatever your CASA FOI or AWI wants them to mean.
Any more news on the problems and their solution?
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Australians who want to be adventurous don't become airline pilots. They become ambulance drivers:
This ambulance is following standard operating procedures by driving on the wrong side of the road, and is about to crash through a red light.
This ambulance is following standard operating procedures by driving on the wrong side of the road, and is about to crash through a red light.
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In the simplest of terms "You pay peanuts, you get monkeys"
and then to keep getting the peanuts the monkeys are willing to jump through all the company hoops including the ones that are on fire.
This not only extends to their pilot training that is notoriuosly sub standard but the maintenance system which is not enforced in any way shape or form by the airline itself and has the staff themselves concerned at the safeness of their own airline.
Let me spell it out clearly if CASA the penultimate toothless and apparently extinct tasmanian tiger has grounded them for so long without repreive there is something very rotten in the state of Denmark
and then to keep getting the peanuts the monkeys are willing to jump through all the company hoops including the ones that are on fire.
This not only extends to their pilot training that is notoriuosly sub standard but the maintenance system which is not enforced in any way shape or form by the airline itself and has the staff themselves concerned at the safeness of their own airline.
Let me spell it out clearly if CASA the penultimate toothless and apparently extinct tasmanian tiger has grounded them for so long without repreive there is something very rotten in the state of Denmark
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Tiger Airways to get all-clear to fly today
Tiger Airways to get all-clear to fly today
The six-week grounding of Tiger Airways Australia is expected to be lifted today by the aviation safety authority, a day ahead of tomorrow's scheduled Federal Court hearing.
But realistically it could take the airline time to get back into the air, in order to sell seats and ready pilots, cabin crew, support staff and airliners for duty.
But realistically it could take the airline time to get back into the air, in order to sell seats and ready pilots, cabin crew, support staff and airliners for duty.
hey me oh my
what is your evidence of 'their training being notoriously sub standard"?
sounds like an idiotically uninformed comment from a bonehead baboon on the sidelines
what is your evidence of 'their training being notoriously sub standard"?
sounds like an idiotically uninformed comment from a bonehead baboon on the sidelines
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Update
Tiger Airways gets OK to resume flights | CASA lifts ban
The six-week grounding of Tiger Airways Australia has ended, with the Civil Aviation Safety Authority (CASA) today lifting the ban on the airline ... CASA has imposed conditions on Tiger's pilot training, crew rostering, updating document control manuals (the airline's reference materials) improving safety management systems and maintenance oversight and the appointment of suitably qualified and experienced senior personnel.
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Maybe it's just me, but when I walk through the streets of Darwin I would say the tourist season is during the dry season, which is now.
Although this year the Aussie Dollar is too expensive for backpackers...
Although this year the Aussie Dollar is too expensive for backpackers...
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CASA's conditions do not include flying to Darwin (yet).
Perhaps there's no discernible seasonal difference anyway:
Tiger Airways resumes flights | First flight after grounding
Perhaps there's no discernible seasonal difference anyway:
Tiger Airways resumes flights | First flight after grounding
"...sales are very strong, the forward bookings are coming in now..."
Australia is a very big country, a point noted when Tiger got the BMIbaby bloke as a CEO. Most of the country is experiencing winter so the locals don't go on holiday until the southern summer when most of the domestic travel season falls. The airlines also state thats when they make most of their money. As an aside Tiger withdrew from the Darwin market domestically very quickly as there is not much yield.
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How many (paying) punters did they get for their first MEL-SYD flight today?
One CASA demand is that all flights are capped at 144.
Last nights flights were full, two outbound ML-SY are full this morning also.
Last nights flights were full, two outbound ML-SY are full this morning also.
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"As an aside Tiger withdrew from the Darwin market domestically very quickly as there is not much yield."
That's interesting, every time I fly to or from Darwin (Qantas or Jetstar only) it's full both ways, which ever route I take.
That's interesting, every time I fly to or from Darwin (Qantas or Jetstar only) it's full both ways, which ever route I take.
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@Lookleft - don't know where you are in Australia, but Qld has full-on holiday season in midwinter. Here on the Gold Coast we have tourists from Melbourne (particularly), Sydney and New Zillund. Everywhere north of here is the same. Melbourne/Gold Coast was/is one of Tigers most heavily patronised routes, and I agree with the cynical comments earlier regarding the holiday season - very convenient for other carriers that the Tiger grounding happened over the hiloday season.
Giving the conspiracy theory any credance at all then the best time to have shut them down would have been just before Easter or Christmas which is the busiest time of the year in Oz. Yes there are still people travelling during the winter time but most people travel domestically during our summer time because that is when most people take their holidays. This is the reason that Jetstar want to introduce part-time pilots to cope with the seasonal variation. The low point being June July August. It also coincides with what the Europeans would laugh at and we call a ski season. There is no jet RPT in Australia to our "ski resorts".
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Re "How many passengers asked for refunds for this coming week? "
Australians are tight arse's, they would fly a Russian Airline in Australia
if it was cheaper.
Australians are tight arse's, they would fly a Russian Airline in Australia
if it was cheaper.