Age 70 for international pilots?
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Lambourne and Mana Ada Sistem, you two collectively provide enough material for an entire conference on psychology.
Gentlemen, you both come across as being one can short of a six-pack.
The worry for flight safety is not those of us who actually enjoy the job and want to work past 60 with the risk of slower reflexes, but guys like yourselves who slipped through the psychological aptitude tests.
Gentlemen, you both come across as being one can short of a six-pack.
The worry for flight safety is not those of us who actually enjoy the job and want to work past 60 with the risk of slower reflexes, but guys like yourselves who slipped through the psychological aptitude tests.
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As a gliding instructor I have found that the learning curve once the candidate is over the age of 60 is more like a plateau. Also, if the aspiring pilot has been a captain of industry before retiring, he usually has an inflated idea of his ability.
At my age, 77, I do have trouble remembering names. What was the name of that irritable young man who wants to enhance his own advancement by removing any wise old captains who are blocking his progress? I hope he never has the chance to fly my family! Too much anger to be safe.
If a pilot has been flying consistently for years and years and kept abreast of developments, it would be inappropriate to require retirement before 65. After that, well.....
we've all got to step down some time. Now, where did I put my bus pass?
At my age, 77, I do have trouble remembering names. What was the name of that irritable young man who wants to enhance his own advancement by removing any wise old captains who are blocking his progress? I hope he never has the chance to fly my family! Too much anger to be safe.
If a pilot has been flying consistently for years and years and kept abreast of developments, it would be inappropriate to require retirement before 65. After that, well.....
we've all got to step down some time. Now, where did I put my bus pass?
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IF the USA raises the age to collect social security to 70, then there should be no LEGAL reason to prohibit flying to age 70.
Now, I am in favor of testing to make sure you are goodpilot
Now, I am in favor of testing to make sure you are goodpilot
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IF the USA raises the age to collect social security to 70, then there should be no LEGAL reason to prohibit flying to age 70.
Now, I am in favor of testing to make sure you are good pilot...but that should be required for all ages..
Now, I am in favor of testing to make sure you are good pilot...but that should be required for all ages..
Nice one chief! 
Double posting is the equal to driving around with one turn signal on...for miles and miles.
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since we are talking about age ...
I wonder if *certain* EU airlines will also eliminate their maximum age requirement for direct-entry candidates.
I think not!
I think not!
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Glad to hear that you are still alive lambourne, are you writing from the Coronary Care Unit or the asylum? I have missed your rants.
Have a nice flight!!
Have a nice flight!!
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regarding the double post. isn't that akin to double checking things? in aviation, that is a positive thing.
as many real airline pilots will know, real pilots are CHEAP and I can't afford to buy a computer that isn't falling apart at the seams. so I will remove one post (as the second was a computer glitch, unfixed till today).
And if I am the guy who says: verify that clearance, maybe it will save your bacon someday.
I don't know you, but I can tell that you are a spoiled little brat who has not paid his dues to either our profession or the sky.
don't watch out for me and our profession, but you better watch out for the sky.
regarding the double post. isn't that akin to double checking things? in aviation, that is a positive thing.
as many real airline pilots will know, real pilots are CHEAP and I can't afford to buy a computer that isn't falling apart at the seams. so I will remove one post (as the second was a computer glitch, unfixed till today).
And if I am the guy who says: verify that clearance, maybe it will save your bacon someday.
I don't know you, but I can tell that you are a spoiled little brat who has not paid his dues to either our profession or the sky.
don't watch out for me and our profession, but you better watch out for the sky.
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regarding the double post. isn't that akin to double checking things? in aviation, that is a positive
Computer glitch or operator error? You do sound like most of the gummers I fly with. No way the FMC entry was your fault. It had to be the computer.
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"Maybe you requesting twice for verification all the time is because you are too old to keep up with the rest of the crew......."
Hey lambourne! What part of 'CREW' don't you get? REALLY??
crew
1 /kru/
–noun
1.
a group of persons involved in a particular kind of work or working together
PLEASE....explain to all us 'gummers' what part of this don't YOU understand?
As previously stated...YOU, will one day be US!
Hey lambourne! What part of 'CREW' don't you get? REALLY??
crew
1 /kru/
–noun
1.
a group of persons involved in a particular kind of work or working together
PLEASE....explain to all us 'gummers' what part of this don't YOU understand?
As previously stated...YOU, will one day be US!
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Poina here you go
http://www.ntsb.gov/publictn/2006/aab0606.pdf
Two old coots. One good airplane.
Capt age 67
F/O age 62
Two old coots. One good airplane.
Capt age 67
F/O age 62
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Hey lambourne! What part of 'CREW' don't you get? REALLY??
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I prefer to fly with the gear up and have always managed to put it down at the right time. us older guys seem to know that in order to get normal performance, especially in second segment climb with engine out, the gear better be up.
I saw that two identical messages were posted and as I was correcting it, my computer crashed. I use MAC OS 9.1 and a poor browser called, ICAB. It frequently crashes. Why don't I get a better computer, capable of better browser...I'm cheap. I paid 40 US Dollars for the used computer.
I am 54 years old. I've seen good pilots and bad pilots. Age never seemed to matter. I still recall the ferry flight when the two younger pilots managed to crash a perfectly good plane horsing around (pinnacle, two engines out, no relight , I think we on pprune called it the DUDE EFFECT)
Poina, I don't smoke anything and never have. So, why don't you send me your name, address and I'll have some friends drop by and you will pee in a little cup.
I prefer to fly with the gear up and have always managed to put it down at the right time. us older guys seem to know that in order to get normal performance, especially in second segment climb with engine out, the gear better be up.
I saw that two identical messages were posted and as I was correcting it, my computer crashed. I use MAC OS 9.1 and a poor browser called, ICAB. It frequently crashes. Why don't I get a better computer, capable of better browser...I'm cheap. I paid 40 US Dollars for the used computer.
I am 54 years old. I've seen good pilots and bad pilots. Age never seemed to matter. I still recall the ferry flight when the two younger pilots managed to crash a perfectly good plane horsing around (pinnacle, two engines out, no relight , I think we on pprune called it the DUDE EFFECT)
Poina, I don't smoke anything and never have. So, why don't you send me your name, address and I'll have some friends drop by and you will pee in a little cup.
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Lambourne, how about every FedEx MD11 accident that was crewed by guys in their late forties and early fifties? As a matter of fact how about every frigging accident in the last thirty years that had age 60 or less pilots in the seats? I don't think age 70 is a good idea and I'm not sure where this idea even originated, but your arguments along with your personality are both pathetic. Get over it and get over yourself while your at it.
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your personality are both pathetic.
Couldn't cut the mustard as a Captain, more than likely.
These types are usually all the same...losers.
IE: the company knows it...and for these types, bit*hing and moaning from the RHS is modus operandi.
Experienced Captains (and airline managements) have seen it all before....nothing new.
The poor babies, what a shame...
Boo Hoo...
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We only know what lambourne says he did. He seems too immature to be a captain of anything. I still think he is a teenager who has a dad that flies. That is what he sounds like. He would be thrown out of my cockpit with his attitude. His total disrespect for his captain would not continue his employment in any airline, union or not. Why doesn't some moderator get him off? He is a kid.