Ash clouds threaten air traffic
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Grounded airline fears ash damage from quick return to flight
At least one airline grounded in the European areas affected by the volcanic ash cloud is worried that it might be pressured to fly again before the risk is over.
EasyJet has told Flight International that it is taking advice from Boeing, Airbus and the engine manufacturers about the risks involved in flying when there is still "residual" volcanic ash in the air because of the potential for damage to the aircraft engines.
At least one airline grounded in the European areas affected by the volcanic ash cloud is worried that it might be pressured to fly again before the risk is over.
EasyJet has told Flight International that it is taking advice from Boeing, Airbus and the engine manufacturers about the risks involved in flying when there is still "residual" volcanic ash in the air because of the potential for damage to the aircraft engines.
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From: FL 350
Sunny dorset
I am currently sat at my desk at home in a very sunny west dorset and i would say that everything is normal and that we might even have CAVOK on our hands because there is not a cloud insight and blue brilliant sky as far as i can see. We have had a few light aircraft overhead but nothing majour i guess that they are VFR?
thanks
mat4134
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mat4134
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From: Europe
Ash on London
The danger is definitely real, invisible to human eye but very tangible for radars and engines.
This is not over reaction, there was no alternative.
Friends from London have just confirmed to me that all cars this morning ,which were left parked outdoors overnight, are now covered by a thin layer of golden sand, obviously this is the ash from the volcano.
If you have a black car the ash is clearly visible on your car, go and check it out.
The main danger now is Katla, fingers crossed , it might get really serious if that one wakes up.
This is not over reaction, there was no alternative.
Friends from London have just confirmed to me that all cars this morning ,which were left parked outdoors overnight, are now covered by a thin layer of golden sand, obviously this is the ash from the volcano.
If you have a black car the ash is clearly visible on your car, go and check it out.
The main danger now is Katla, fingers crossed , it might get really serious if that one wakes up.
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From: Blighty (Nth. Downs)
splitduty,
As a retired airline pilot, I share your concern about this unprecedented action by NATS; taking the decision out of our hands. But I think this was probably government intervention, as said yesterday? No doubt, the readiness of the authorities to intervene has magnified since "9/11".
The spectre of numbers of 200-tonne gliders over built-up areas was probably too much. Once they have raised the alarm, which operator can tell if his insurer would pay up?
Chris
As a retired airline pilot, I share your concern about this unprecedented action by NATS; taking the decision out of our hands. But I think this was probably government intervention, as said yesterday? No doubt, the readiness of the authorities to intervene has magnified since "9/11".
The spectre of numbers of 200-tonne gliders over built-up areas was probably too much. Once they have raised the alarm, which operator can tell if his insurer would pay up?
Chris
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From: away from home
interesting viewing off a Dutch website - was posted on a weather forum
Danmarks Miljøundersøgelser, Aarhus Universitet - Sådan spreder vulkan-skyen fra Island sig
btw anyone looked at the Jetstream forecast up till Wednesday ? doesn't look that great to my non-meterological eyes.
Danmarks Miljøundersøgelser, Aarhus Universitet - Sådan spreder vulkan-skyen fra Island sig
btw anyone looked at the Jetstream forecast up till Wednesday ? doesn't look that great to my non-meterological eyes.
Secondly it shows high density of ash over Europe (similar colour as straight from the volcano) spread over areas hundreds of times larger. Certainly it will spread out, and become much less dense.
The danger is definitely real, invisible to human eye but very tangible for radars and engines.
This is not over reaction, there was no alternative.
Friends from London have just confirmed to me that all cars this morning ,which were left parked outdoors overnight, are now covered by a thin layer of golden sand, obviously this is the ash from the volcano.
If you have a black car the ash is clearly visible on your car, go and check it out.
This is not over reaction, there was no alternative.
Friends from London have just confirmed to me that all cars this morning ,which were left parked outdoors overnight, are now covered by a thin layer of golden sand, obviously this is the ash from the volcano.
If you have a black car the ash is clearly visible on your car, go and check it out.
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From: EPKT
Nice sat images at EUMETSAT IPPS animation - Meteosat 0 degree Dust Central Europe
(colors described at Met Office: Iceland Volcano satellite imagery)
(colors described at Met Office: Iceland Volcano satellite imagery)
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From: Harrogate, North Yorkshire
@manofman I Don't know where you got your info from, but this is what is written on EGCC/MAN website - Severe Restrictions to UK Airspace Affecting Manchester Airport
National Air Traffic Services (NATS) have now confirmed that no flights will be permitted in UK controlled airspace until 1am on Saturday 17th April, at the earliest, due to the volcanic ash drifting across the country from Iceland.
As a result, all arriving and departing flights at Manchester remain suspended until further notice.
National Air Traffic Services (NATS) have now confirmed that no flights will be permitted in UK controlled airspace until 1am on Saturday 17th April, at the earliest, due to the volcanic ash drifting across the country from Iceland.
As a result, all arriving and departing flights at Manchester remain suspended until further notice.
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From: Essex, UK
Ah the medical emergency explains that one. There's another flight though TOM093 - FlightAware > Thomsonfly #93
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From: Birmingham, UK
Apparently MAN are accepting three flights between now and 13:00, so TOM663 (apparently supposed to be bound for Glasgow) would be one, and possibly the TCX flight could be two.... So one more floating around??
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"...the night was moonless but clear..."
I believe that the words Eric used in his early interviews were - drawing on his Hampshire background - " it was as black as a badgers arse "
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Iceland eruption could trigger more
Posted on16 April 2010. Tags: eruption, Iceland, volcano
HeklaWhen the ongoing Eyjafjallajokull eruption began this week, other volcanic monitoring stations in Iceland were put on alert and worrying results started coming in from Grimsvotn under Europe’s largest glacier, Vatnajokull.
Pall Einarsson, earth sciences professor at the University of Iceland said that Grimsvotn started rumbling with a series of earthquakes.
Grimsvotn is now in a similar condition to how it was in 2004, when it last erupted. Last time the Grimsvotn eruption was started by a jöklahlaup, which is when the pressure of melted water under the glacier builds up to such an extent that it lifts the entire ice cap and rushes out in a highly destructive torrent. There is every indication this will happen again within 24 months, Einarsson told Visir.is.
He said that scientists have had great success in predicting activity at Grimsvotn and that they now predict an eruption at the site within two years – although it could easily come in the next weeks or months.
We must also not forget Hekla, he added. Since settlement, Hekla has erupted roughly every ten years. She erupted in 1970, 1980, 1991 and 2000.
Posted on16 April 2010. Tags: eruption, Iceland, volcano
HeklaWhen the ongoing Eyjafjallajokull eruption began this week, other volcanic monitoring stations in Iceland were put on alert and worrying results started coming in from Grimsvotn under Europe’s largest glacier, Vatnajokull.
Pall Einarsson, earth sciences professor at the University of Iceland said that Grimsvotn started rumbling with a series of earthquakes.
Grimsvotn is now in a similar condition to how it was in 2004, when it last erupted. Last time the Grimsvotn eruption was started by a jöklahlaup, which is when the pressure of melted water under the glacier builds up to such an extent that it lifts the entire ice cap and rushes out in a highly destructive torrent. There is every indication this will happen again within 24 months, Einarsson told Visir.is.
He said that scientists have had great success in predicting activity at Grimsvotn and that they now predict an eruption at the site within two years – although it could easily come in the next weeks or months.
We must also not forget Hekla, he added. Since settlement, Hekla has erupted roughly every ten years. She erupted in 1970, 1980, 1991 and 2000.
