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Ilyushin Freighter crashed into Lake Victoria

Old 12th Mar 2009, 14:16
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OCNUS

OCNUS = Dr. Gary Busch a known Viktor Boutaphile so read with some caution please.
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Old 12th Mar 2009, 16:16
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Ocnus: Bout-phobe, not phile. Didn't you see him on the TV documentary on Bout?
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Old 12th Mar 2009, 17:53
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I did not see GB on TV expressing distain for VB.
BTW John Miller has chosen to PM me rather than reply in the thread, I wonder why? So far no info as to where he qualified as a Journalist.

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Old 13th Mar 2009, 11:07
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RPG....... Nonsense !!!
A/c was AOG with engine problems 1 week back.

Unfortunately just another case of Messrs Yvgueny & co's total lack of respect for human life
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Old 13th Mar 2009, 12:18
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Africanut, you can prove that? Records show one week ago aircraft was away on flight. Perhaps you are getting the aircraft at EBB confused.

How is Yuri Siderov doing lately, you must surely work for him or be his friend - send him best regards. Hope you get to fly again real soon.

But from your previous posts it would appear if you are a wannabe aviator or cargo agent dredging the outside of the terminal begging for cargo. Obviously you have insights and access to the aircraft airside EBB, thats why you can have so much to say. Specialist?

How many S9 IL-76 were standing at EBB last wek, or whenever you made these observations, and what are/were their registrations?

Come on mr Specialist, show us you know everything, ok, maybe perhaps, just something!
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Old 16th Mar 2009, 19:58
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I got the joke..please keep your comments and thoughts coming,after all, '172 Driver' as a handle says it all!
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Old 16th Mar 2009, 20:37
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J.F.

I'd like to see 172 in a 'Dunsfold Dustbin' in the hover, but only with you in it going vertical
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Old 16th Mar 2009, 20:55
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New screen name required mate. This one is worthless now!!

JF - I'll bet he put a smile on your face.
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Old 16th Mar 2009, 21:41
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Interview with Viktor Bout on Channel 4 (UK independent TV channel) this evening, in which they interviewed him (with some obvious difficulty) in his Thai prison. He stated that he did not always know what the aircraft he was operating were doing.

http://http://www.channel4.com/news/
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Old 16th Mar 2009, 21:56
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172 Driver

Originally Posted by 172Driver
You seem to know very little about the center of lift on some Russian designs. Quite a few ILs and Antonovs climb away in a nose DOWN attitude.
Hey !
Centre of lift has nothing to do with fuse angle, it's zero-lift incidence setting of the wing viz the fuse that sets that, usually for cruise-drag reduction, though sometimes for simple landing take-off geometry reasons.
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Old 17th Mar 2009, 00:51
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For your knowledge 172driver.
http://www.pprune.org/flight-testing...-new-book.html

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Old 17th Mar 2009, 10:28
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Entebbe has been the center for a large humanitarian fleet for several years now ever since Kenya wanted to tax UN food aid and various other things heading into Congo.

And as for this aircraft it was apparently flying supplies to Uganden peace keepers in Somalia.
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Old 17th Mar 2009, 11:56
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Miniature Disasters Norven Munky’s Weblog

Might be worth reading Mr 172 ....
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Old 17th Mar 2009, 12:56
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As often seems to happen, this thread seems to have wandered away from the points at issue.
Why was an aircraft (which is almost certainly not airworthy) allowed to operate a charter flight on behalf of the UN/US government/whoever and kill 4 crew and 7 passengers (who almost certainly should not have been allowed on board) by crashing in as yet unexplained circumstances.
There will not be any proper investigation, certainly no report from the Sao Tome AAIB and there will be many more repeats of these appalling crashes.
One can only hope that the lawyers acting for the bereaved families may discover some of the facts and the powers that be in Rome and Washington may one day properly enforce their own rules on which carriers they use.
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Old 27th Mar 2009, 19:18
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Did anyone else have a good laugh when they read what the cargo claimed to be? tents? From Dynacorp? Oh cmon now.
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Old 28th Mar 2009, 08:53
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yup.....sounds ridiculous but......for real there were water bottles floating at the crash site.....maybe the cargo we are thinking about sunk......
really interesting story on the african aviation thread...........mention of al-shabaab!!!
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Old 28th Mar 2009, 11:23
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I have just come accross Mr 172driver's attempted bitch-slap of John Farley.

A true comic moment and one which made me laugh out loud.
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Old 31st Mar 2009, 21:52
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From Military Photo's. Net

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ENTEBBE, Uganda - Members of U.S. Navy Explosive Ordnance Disposal Mobile Unit 8 (EODMU 8) receive a briefing on the Ilyushin 76 transport plane March 24, 2009, which is the same model as the one which crashed into Lake Victoria in Africa March 9. EODMU 8 is part of a search and recovery operation being conducted by the Combined Joint Task Force-Horn of Africa (CJTF-HOA) and the government of Uganda. (U.S. Navy photo by Chief Mass Communication Specialist Cory Drake)


I doubt that these guy's have been brought in to look for sunken tents and bottled water!
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Old 2nd Apr 2009, 20:27
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more news

http:New Vision Online : Plane wreckage 80ft deep
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Old 4th Apr 2009, 01:11
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I know this is a bit of a weird request, but does anyone have any ATC recordings?
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