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wings1011 9th Mar 2009 08:02

Ilyushin Freighter crashed into Lake Victoria
 
Just saw it at the web and its a picture of a Antonov 124 freighter. Wheather its such an airctaft or not I cannot say since the press somtimes posts a picture of a "similar brand " .Appearantly it crashed directly after takeoff into the sea starting from Entebbe the biggest airport in Uganda, and all onboard are feared to be lost. It was obvisously carrying some military equipment. Anybody have some mor info ??

dudleydick 9th Mar 2009 08:24

The following was lifted fronm Flight safety site:

9 MAR 2009 - A cargo plane with seven people on board crashed into Lake Victoria after take-off from Entebbe, Uganda. Rumors indicate that the airplane involved may have been Il-76 S9-DBR, while media reports state an Antonov was involved in the accident.
Reuters

LorryDriver 9th Mar 2009 08:37

From Uganda's New Vision Plane crashes into Lake Victoria, 11 feared dead Monday, 9th March, 2009 A cargo plane with eleven people on board crashed into Lake Victoria after take-off from Uganda's main airport at 5:14 am this morning, killing three Burundian army officers. The plane, an illuyshin 76, registration S9-SAB operated by Aerolift and chartered by Dynacorp was flying from Entebbe airport to Somalia with tents and water purification equipment for the African Mission to Somalia (AMSOM). The fate of the other passengers is still unknown. The Spokeman of Civil Aviation Authority, Ignie Igunduura said salvage efforts were underway. “The Entebbe airport and UPDF Marine Search teams immediately went to the scene where the aircraft had crashed and sank,” said Igunduura, who feared all the people on board had been killed. “The identities and nationalities of the people on board will be disclosed after their next of kin have been informed.” It is not known what caused the crash and a team of investigators has been sent to the site to determine the probable cause of the accident. Operations at the airport have not been affected.

readywhenreaching 9th Mar 2009 09:04

according to JACDEC (J.A.C.D.E.C. - Jet Airliner Crash Data Evaluation Centre), it was a IL-76 registration S9-SAB

again Aerolift
again Lake Victoria
again soon after take-off

more to come...
4 crew + 7 "others".

b

Schumi - Red Baron 9th Mar 2009 09:25

According to Reuters it's an Antonov.


KAMPALA, March 9 (Reuters) - An Antonov cargo plane en route to Somalia with 11 people on board including three Burundian military officers crashed into Lake Victoria after take-off from Uganda's main airport on Monday, officials said.

UPDATE 1 - Cargo plane crashes into Ugandan lake | Reuters

BUSHJEPPY 9th Mar 2009 10:03

Aerolift....hummm...well known Gun Runners. It's about time that the international community does something against these flag of convenience but instead they get more business, of course, who wants to fly into Moga these days...

Dani 9th Mar 2009 11:44

... except some merceneries from Dyncorp (not Dynacorp)!

Waterpurification? Who believes it!

D

Jofm5 9th Mar 2009 12:00

Accordin to the following article on the Aviation Herald (The Aviation Herald)


An Aerolift (Namibia) Ilyushin IL-76 chartered by Dynacorp on behalf of the African Mission to Somalia (AMISOM), registration S9-SAB performing a charter freight flight from Entebbe (Uganda) to Somalia with 4 passengers and 7 crew on board, crashed into Lake Victoria about 9km from the airport shortly after takeoff from Entebbe at 05:14 local (02:14Z) and sank. Three Burundian Army Officers are confirmed dead, the others on board are feared dead.

The airplane carried tents and water purifiers.

Metars etc are available via the link for those interested.

Vapor 9th Mar 2009 13:08

Well if it's S9-SAB then it's a IL76

JetPhotos.Net Photo » S9-SAB (CN: 063471147) Aerolift Ilyushin IL-76 by Michael Sender

captplaystation 9th Mar 2009 13:18

I am constantly surprised when these things crash. . . . reason being that it happens so often I am surprised there are any left to crash. :hmm:

Jetjock330 9th Mar 2009 14:02

S9 registration is Sao Tome if I think

Avman 9th Mar 2009 14:32

......and most wouldn't have crashed if they didn't overload them so much - not to mention the iffy maintenance on those operated by the cowboy outfits. Unfortunately many of these crews don't have many other options to earn a living flying.

wilyflier 9th Mar 2009 15:03

entebbe just before dawn
 
Dawn temperature inversion over the lake, using every inch of the runway,unable to get above Flaps up safety speed for several minutes, trying to dodge the thick clouds of lake flies for fear of power loss.
45 years ago, but we werent carrying hardware, just fare paying pax for London, plus Freddie Lakers private banana bonus up to MTOW.

Xeque 9th Mar 2009 15:47

Wilyflier
 
There's a story to be told in there somewhere methinks :)

B Sousa 9th Mar 2009 15:59

Its mentioned above but gathering limited info here and there it seems.
We have Dyncorp ( US company) chartering a Russian Aircraft to take Tents and Water Purification goodies from Entebbe?? Since when did Entebbe become a stockpile for "humanitarian" supplies. And into Somalia no less.
Also based on previous accidents and speculation, could it be they were about "ten tents" overloaded??
Anyway deep deep water which may never yield the secret.....nor the lost souls making a tough living.

I have been assured by a friend that it was as described. Tents etc and certainly not overloaded. Water where the wreckage is not that deep so there will be an answer eventually. Other information not to be posted yet until an "official" answer come out.

Radar35 9th Mar 2009 16:13

Used to Work at Fujairah, UAE where all these aircraft types such as AN12's, IL76's etc working in that part of the world come for maintenance.

It should be looked into why 80% of these companies (and owners) use non authorised organisations, not to mention the fact that the local authorities take no action at all in this regard.

Difficult to blame the crews for accepting these aircraft in this condition as they are not privy to the whole maintenance manuals and schedules not to mention that the owners offer huge amounts of cash for such flights (in the region of $30K per month for Pilots & 80 % of that for the rest of the crews) so if they are desperate like most people on the world today then they will take their chances for a month or two.

The main reason for thos post, although I am dead against journalists using this forum, I hope someone picks up on this and actually starts writing and asking serious questions of the aviation authorities in the middle east, Ukraine, Russia and the african continent. Bear in mind alot of these aircraft are contratcted by the United Nations also. Let's hope these are not going to be any more lives lost unnecessarily!!!!! :mad:

Dysag 9th Mar 2009 16:24

Maintenance AND operations taking chances
 
Remember this?

YouTube - IL-76 on a loooooonnnnnggggg takeoff.

ian16th 9th Mar 2009 17:37

Plane crash: Recovery continues
 
This is from a South African news website:
Plane crash: Recovery continues: Africa: News: News24

Kampala - Recovery operations were still going on into the afternoon on Monday after a Russian-built plane crashed into Lake Victoria earlier in the day, with up to 11 persons feared dead, officials said. "As we talk now, the rescue team has not fished out the bodies and the plane wreckage," Information Minister Kabakumba Matsiko said. "The mission is still going on."
The government said that among those feared dead int eh crash of the Ilyushin plane were the four Russian crew members, along with three Burundia army officers, a South African UN staff member, and an Indian and Ugandan national.
The cargo plane had taken off from Entebbe airport but then burst into flames and crashed into a fishing boat on the lake, 9km to the south, and sank. The fishermen survived the accident.
"The team is still investigating and looking out for options and theories until the truth is got. The names of the dead will not be released until their families are informed," Matsiko said.
The ill-fated plane was bringing tents and water treatment equipment to Somalia. Uganda and Burundi have sent close to 5 000 troops to Somalia under the African Union mission to restore order in the country.

Intruder 9th Mar 2009 20:42


Since when did Entebbe become a stockpile for "humanitarian" supplies.
I took a 747 full of them into Entebbe last fall on a UN charter...

AA SLF 9th Mar 2009 20:46

Dyncorp is a well known corporation here in the Dallas area. Their HQ is in a suburb just down the road from me. They are in a very "interesting" line-of-business (read "Solidier of Fortune activities"). You want to hire some "hard men" for a black mission somewhere - see Dyncorp.


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