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Old 29th Apr 2008, 13:08
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Ryanair on grass in Poland - Taxi incident

Sky News breaking story - airport not identified. Destination reported as EMA. Runway closed.

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Incident occurred in Lodz; 170 on board.
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pics & vid: http://www.tvn24.pl/-1,1547877,wiadomosc.html
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Ryanair Plane Skids Off Runway In Poland

Braking News on Sky.

Polish airport has been closed after a Ryanair plane with 170 passengers on board went off the runway while taxiing before takeoff.
The plane, which was bound for Nottingham, England, got its wheel stuck in soft ground after leaving the tarmac when apparently trying to turn around at the end of the runway.
An airport spokesman said strong winds forced planes to use the full length of the runway.
Officials closed the airport while technicians prepared to pull the plane back onto the runway.
The passengers have been bussed 80 miles east to Warsaw for a flight to Nottingham.
Other Lodz flights are being diverted to Warsaw, and a bus service will be provided.
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Nose wheel on grass. 170 pax, no injuries. A/p closed, FR/O2 flts are diverting to WAW/BZG. Someone citing high winds (?), seems to be 9-11 kts all day.
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Reported as nose wheel sunk into the stopway

but would normally expect the stopway to support at least the nosewheel
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SkyNews no palpably calming down stating no injuries and pax on a bus to Warsaw. Ryanair have issued a press statement.

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Sky's view.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/...314428,00.html
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Ryanair - cutting corners again!!
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That link above has some nice shots of the aircraft there in Lodz. Bearing in mind that the whole plane is on the stopway having already done a 90 degrees turn there, it looks like they confused the stopway for a turning pad. Time will tell.
Hope the guys involved are okay!
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http://m.onet.pl/_m/b9efd0ff307da860...6891d,21,1.jpg

Looks like a sand trap from this shot, not sure I want to risk turning on that kind of surface
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no corners cut

having been into LODZ with ryr in a previous life you enter the runway and backtrack.......

but unfortunately it looks like the boys were trying to make full use of the available runway and just went a little too far......

how is that trying to cut corners ivor?????

looks like an embarrassing mistake not like someone trying to cut corners you muppet
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according to aircraft involved is EI-DYB, delivered March this year.

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no idea what he is talking about!!

IVOR i wish people like you would keep your opinions to yourself at least untill you knew what you were talking about.
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Off Bloomberg:

Ryanair Plane Runs Off Runway in Lodz, Poland; Airport Closes

By Tracy Alloway and Nathaniel Espino
April 29 (Bloomberg) -- A Ryanair Holdings Plc plane
carrying 170 passengers went off the runway at Poland's Lodz
airport while taxiing for takeoff.
The nose wheel of the Boeing Co. aircraft sank into the
ground off the beginning of the runway, Dublin-based Ryanair said
today in an e-mailed statement. Passengers on flight FR1624 from
Lodz to East Midlands airport in England left the plane normally
and were bused back into the terminal, the airline said. No one
was injured, according to the carrier.
``The plane went off the pavement while taxiing and the
wheels got stuck in the mud,'' said Milosz Wika, a spokesman for
Lodz airport. ``The airport has been closed and traffic has been
re-routed to Warsaw. We'll probably be closed for the rest of the
day, because we can't move the Ryanair plane. We're waiting for
engineers to move it.''
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Old 29th Apr 2008, 14:31
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In Ivor's defence, I would guess that he was messing about and saying 'cutting corners' as a play on words about possibly cutting the corner of the runway on the turnaround/ backtrack, rather than it being a comment about Ryanair and cost cutting. Only a guess though.
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Ryanair - cutting corners again!!
Heheh good one. Careful though, looks like you've upset the humour police.
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Oh come on ted....ivor was making a joke....and since no one was hurt, i thought it was even a bit funny.

however what you said was serious...thats more worrying..because you said "looks like an embarrassing mistake". Where did you get MISTAKE from. Looking at the video the aircraft was on the turning pad at the end of the runway. Thats where you expect the aircraft to be. Now if there is a notam to say not to use it because its a sand trap then somebody made a mistake allright...but let the facts come out before we use the word MISTAKE.

I haven't checked notams yet, well lets face it, someone a bit more keen will probably do and post it.

If that was sand i would expect standard airport markings to be in place, you know big X and edge markers at end of runway.

Looks like there may be more to meets the eye on this. Frome the video it does looks like an "overrun sandpit" (what are they officially called again?) but it also looks like a stopway...which of course you CAN taxi on.

So lets wait a little while before we start saying anyone made a mistake. This looks like a sucker hole I could have been drawn into myself, and I'm worried airport authorities are allowed to present us with this kind of stuff over and over again and the feds do not come down on them hard enough (remember the cock ups with the runway lighting when Singapore 747 hit ground equipment on take off)...
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Hi All,

Here's the video: http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=nu3pjjHLAsk
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Stopway means an area beyond the takeoff runway, no less wide than the runway and centered upon the extended centerline of the runway, able to support the airplane during an aborted takeoff, without causing structural damage to the airplane, and designated by the airport authorities for use in decelerating the airplane during an aborted takeoff.

Stopways are usually, not always, depicted on Jeppy 10-9 charts.

http://flight.sanyjo.cz/mapy/Poland/EPLL.pdf
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