Ryanair on grass in Poland - Taxi incident
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Boneflyer, Ivor is making a joke, read it again and calm down!!
Of interest, the Mail is calling this a crash!!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1770
Of interest, the Mail is calling this a crash!!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1770
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Until I read Bomber Harris's Post 18, I always believed that 'big x' was a character in a pow escape film.
Now he's standing beside a runway in Poland!
Oops, it seems I forgot my medication again.
Now he's standing beside a runway in Poland!
Oops, it seems I forgot my medication again.
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I would have thought that the TORA, ASDA and LDA of both runways being 2500m would give everyone a clue. From the Polish AIP
13. DECLARED DISTANCES
RWY TORA (M) TODA (M) ASDA (M) LDA (M)
07L1) 2500 2560 2500 2500
25R1) 2500 2560 2500 2500
Uwagi/Remarks 1)- Brak malowania na drodze startowej oznaczeń “lewy” (“L”), “prawy” (“R”)./No “left” (“L”) and “right” (“R”) letters are
painted on the RWY.
13. DECLARED DISTANCES
RWY TORA (M) TODA (M) ASDA (M) LDA (M)
07L1) 2500 2560 2500 2500
25R1) 2500 2560 2500 2500
Uwagi/Remarks 1)- Brak malowania na drodze startowej oznaczeń “lewy” (“L”), “prawy” (“R”)./No “left” (“L”) and “right” (“R”) letters are
painted on the RWY.
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hey bumber
perhaps honest "mistake" was the wrong word to use,but the fact that the aircraft was taxied past the piano keys and the SOLID white line at the end of the runway depicting the END of the runway was then perhaps a what???? also the contrast in colours should have been approached with caution. i refer to the link in post 3.
i dont have a thesaurus to hand but if you can call it something other than a mistake i will edit my post accordingly.
as for the wx it looks to be a pretty nice day in lodz so SA should not have been a problem.
what probably got them was ryr sops that call for a bit too much heads in while the a/c is moving under its own power,this has been documented on previous ryr incidents.
i still think this is an embarressing mistake,over to you.
i dont have a thesaurus to hand but if you can call it something other than a mistake i will edit my post accordingly.
as for the wx it looks to be a pretty nice day in lodz so SA should not have been a problem.
what probably got them was ryr sops that call for a bit too much heads in while the a/c is moving under its own power,this has been documented on previous ryr incidents.
i still think this is an embarressing mistake,over to you.
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capitalism
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I think you've just summed up the global economy + capitalism at work. Time = money
I think you've just summed up the global economy + capitalism at work. Time = money
This incident is ridiculus, no matter what the excuse, reson, mitigation, it was TOTALLY avoidable.
Crewcost beat me to it with a totally accurate overview of this airline.
Crewcost beat me to it with a totally accurate overview of this airline.
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This suggests a lack of experience. The Captain has not spent enough time in the right hand seat prior to taking on the resposibility. The companies insurance renewals will probably reflect this.
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flap15, you may already know who the unfortunate Capt was ( by word of mouth or via our wonderful computer at work) as I am OFF I don't. If however you are just surmising or attempting to offer an explanation I would draw your attention to the fact that our last two "offs" were performed by respectively a LTC and a TRI so experience/lack of , wasn't really such a big factor.
There but for the grace of god go most of us, it is best to bear this in mind if you truly wish to avoid it, IMHO of course.
There but for the grace of god go most of us, it is best to bear this in mind if you truly wish to avoid it, IMHO of course.
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That is a great video at http://www.tvn24.pl/-1,1547877,wiadomosc.html
Hopefully the crew were not still in the Flight Deck. I wouldn't want to see a helicopter filming me after a ****up.
I thought it looked like the EMAS system they sank into, which I personally think should be on all runways.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enginee...rrestor_system
It doesn't look long enough though, and the main gear is still on the surface.
I'm prepared to give Ryanair a little benefit of doubt as they do a hell a lot of sectors and therefore statistically speaking will be involved in more "incidents" than most airlines.
Good luck to the crew,
Ryanair appear on the surface at least to have a blame safety culture. Hopefully not!!!
FIS.
Hopefully the crew were not still in the Flight Deck. I wouldn't want to see a helicopter filming me after a ****up.
I thought it looked like the EMAS system they sank into, which I personally think should be on all runways.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enginee...rrestor_system
It doesn't look long enough though, and the main gear is still on the surface.
I'm prepared to give Ryanair a little benefit of doubt as they do a hell a lot of sectors and therefore statistically speaking will be involved in more "incidents" than most airlines.
Good luck to the crew,
Ryanair appear on the surface at least to have a blame safety culture. Hopefully not!!!
FIS.
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First of all, back off until the facts are known. Character assassination doesn't hold water.
If you haven't been to Lodz you don't know what the problems are nor do you know what the place looks like.
Ted, my apologies, you obviously have been to Lodz.
If you haven't been to Lodz you don't know what the problems are nor do you know what the place looks like.
i worked in RYR for over 6 years and loved every minute of it.met some top lads flew some good kit and flew into some tricky airports.
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Firstly that is not stopway as previously discussed it s EMAS
Secondly ..2500 m is long nuff to take off in 738 for the dist/all wts/wx
Thirdly could the guys/girls/guy/girl not see it was nt tarmac?
the most difficult part of this job is on the ground ......maybe RYR should realise this (and that includes the treatment by management)
Secondly ..2500 m is long nuff to take off in 738 for the dist/all wts/wx
Thirdly could the guys/girls/guy/girl not see it was nt tarmac?
the most difficult part of this job is on the ground ......maybe RYR should realise this (and that includes the treatment by management)
