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Risky IL-76 Take-off Captured on Video

Old 16th Feb 2008, 17:06
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How did I know then next words after 'lift her up anytime you like Captain' would be 'Jesus Christ!'?
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Old 16th Feb 2008, 21:26
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PLovett,

Yes, seen quite a few DC-9s use up all the runway at Alice Springs and leave a black exhaust trail visually close to the horizon for a long time after leaving the runway!!

IIRC, the DC-9 was very marginal on hot days.

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Old 17th Feb 2008, 03:47
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IL76

Not a bad guess on your part.... February 2001. Been a lot of changes since then, mostly outside the perimeter fence but we do have an extra 600 metres for runway 35 now. This guy could have done with that extra!
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Old 17th Feb 2008, 22:13
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Led sled just beat me to it. Nobody here ever used "Improved climb" performance?? By the looks of that high ground ahead they might have been doing a standard company procedure. V1 is called as usual for the rwy length, but it then seems like forever before reaching Vr. It's quite normal to see the rwy end coming up fast!
Just out of interest what does one do in the event of a limiting failure prior to rotation ?

Apart from pull back anyway...
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Old 17th Feb 2008, 22:18
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Wow! That's spectacular.

It's one of those you see and think "there's no way he's gonna leave it that late" and he did!

Excellent.
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Old 18th Feb 2008, 12:23
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That reminds me of a story from the VC10 days...
Out of Nairobi, 3H take off. (Hot, High & Heavy)
F/O "Did you see those red lights go under the nose at the end of the runway?"
Flt Eng "Yes, they had 'Philips 600W' written on them"
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Old 18th Feb 2008, 16:59
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ha ha typical russian IL 76 take off !!!
the comments by the camera man are more funny though !!
wounder what the navigator was thinking sitting in the bottom ??

i some how doubt it was a reduced power take off if he rotated where he did, and if it was the shorter of the 2 runways like someone mentioned !!

but by african standard that climb profile looked pretty impressive !!! i ve seen some IL76 in africa not even climb 500 ft before they are nearly out of sight ! and wouldnt have believed it if i hadnt seen it my self !!

nice video nice find
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Old 18th Feb 2008, 18:35
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Wow crazy! Bet he needed a change of underwear after that take off!
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Old 18th Feb 2008, 20:02
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Risky take off versus risky landing. Check out the landing of this IL 62. Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukHULbHqW4Q
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Old 18th Feb 2008, 20:12
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IL62 landing at its static display site, who needs asphalt?
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Old 18th Feb 2008, 20:25
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TNT 737 tried that at EMA!!!
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Old 18th Feb 2008, 20:28
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if an aircraft is that heavy 'geared up for an 11 hour flight' and the runway is that short -roughly1600m-should it be allowed to take off?
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Old 18th Feb 2008, 20:37
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I think the tower crew is even worser than the IL-76 crew. They didn't anything to maintain the safety of their airport.
The only way to deal with such dangerous kind of ops, making copies from all of their paperwork, licence, medical, insurance, techlog, aoc, flightlog, weight-calculations and rwy-calculation. Remind them about the normal airline operation. An russia is not 3. worl. I know a little the russians, they saying, such operation would never be allowed in the aeroflot.
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Old 19th Feb 2008, 01:35
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Originally Posted by rak64
I think the tower crew is even worser than the IL-76 crew. They didn't anything to maintain the safety of their airport.
The only way to deal with such dangerous kind of ops, making copies from all of their paperwork, licence, medical, insurance, techlog, aoc, flightlog, weight-calculations and rwy-calculation. Remind them about the normal airline operation.
That would be one of the most ignorant posts I've ever read on Pprune. ATC's are there primarily to stop aircraft hitting each other, it is generally assumed that an ATPL doesn't (or shouldn't) need reminding about "normal airline operation". How do you know that an incident report of some kind wasn't filled out? Was one required?

"Excuse me Captain, I think you look like you are about to perform a dodgy take off, could I please see your weight and balance calculations? Oh, and please include copies of your licence, log, medical etc etc prior to airways clearance"
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Old 19th Feb 2008, 01:42
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An russia is not 3. worl. I know a little the russians, they saying, such operation would never be allowed in the aeroflot.
What makes you think this aircraft and its crew were Russians? This aircraft type is operated by 30 to 40 countries at least.

Here is a picture of an aircraft that has the same trim:
www.airliners.net/photo/Azerbaijan-Airlines/Ilyushin-Il-76TD/0228375/L/

Azerbaijan Airlines, from Baku.
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Old 19th Feb 2008, 03:32
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rak64: ATC does not know the performance capabilities of each and every airplane. And even if they did, operational decisions of the kind that we are discussing are outside of their area. ATC is not qualified to say if an airplane is too heavy, what his takeoff crosswind limit is, what his landing minimums should be or if his takeoff fuel is sufficient.

If an error of judgment has taken place, deal with the pilot/operator, but do not push it to un-qualified people/departments. That is a dereliction of duty. Besides, too many cooks spoil the broth....
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Old 19th Feb 2008, 07:19
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Talking IL76 Photo

Minorite invisible Quote:
An russia is not 3. worl. I know a little the russians, they saying, such operation would never be allowed in the aeroflot.

What makes you think this aircraft and its crew were Russians? This aircraft type is operated by 30 to 40 countries at least.

Here is a picture of an aircraft that has the same trim:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Azerb...6TD/0228375/L/

Azerbaijan Airlines, from Baku.



I have checked the full version of my video and the aircraft is the exact same one featured in the link given by "Minorite invisible".
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Old 19th Feb 2008, 08:27
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Which Runway?

It's off RW 17 not 30. Also has a lower climb gradient to MSA. 4.4% from memory as opposed to 6.6% off 35. He was assigned hdg 180 on departure if you listen to the audio. Notwithstanding the longer runway, still impressive don't you think!!
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Old 19th Feb 2008, 08:49
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The controller is referring to an AHC callsign, which would make this an Azal Cargo (based in Baku) flight, probably on behalf of the Australian Defence Force. It is quite normal for the military to supply free fuel for these types of flights, which could explain the slightly high take-off weight?
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we pay all runway, we use all runway
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