BA CSD's salary revealed in Daily telegraph
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I registered and........
then I 'copied and pasted' the article for all my friends at pprune!! 
Cash clinic: flight director keeps feet on ground over retirement plans
(Filed: 02/10/2004)
Mother wants to maximise savings and provide financial security for her two daughters before giving up work in five years' time, writes Harriet Meyer
With five years to go until she will stop working, Tineke Tilstra, 55, is keen to maximise her savings in time for retirement.
Mrs Tilstra, from Sunningdale, Berkshire, has worked for British Airways as a cabin service director since she arrived in England from Amsterdam, her birthplace, in 1969. She was 20 years old.
Although she can retire now, Mrs Tilstra, a divorcee, enjoys her job so much she has decided to continue working until she is 60. She said: "It is British Airways' policy that flight crew can retire at 55, but a lot don't want to go.
"I have crystalised my final salary pension, which I contributed to for 35 years, and am happy with it as I have been told I can expect to receive £27,000 a year from age 60." However, she still pays £10 a month in additional voluntary contributions [AVCs], which are currently worth £32,000.
She said: "Once I am 60 I will buy an annuity with the AVCs, but I am not sure which one to get." With her savings and state pension entitlement on top of her company pension, Mrs Tilstra is confident she will have enough to provide for a comfortable retirement, although she is keen to be reassured on this point.
Along with sums in various savings accounts, including £25,000 in an ING Direct savings account, in which she deposits £500 a month, Mrs Tilstra has her home to consider. She bought her four-bedroom home for £186,000 in 1994 and, after some improvements, it is now worth around £480,000.
Cash clinic: flight director keeps feet on ground over retirement plans
(Filed: 02/10/2004)
Mother wants to maximise savings and provide financial security for her two daughters before giving up work in five years' time, writes Harriet Meyer
With five years to go until she will stop working, Tineke Tilstra, 55, is keen to maximise her savings in time for retirement.
Mrs Tilstra, from Sunningdale, Berkshire, has worked for British Airways as a cabin service director since she arrived in England from Amsterdam, her birthplace, in 1969. She was 20 years old.
Although she can retire now, Mrs Tilstra, a divorcee, enjoys her job so much she has decided to continue working until she is 60. She said: "It is British Airways' policy that flight crew can retire at 55, but a lot don't want to go.
"I have crystalised my final salary pension, which I contributed to for 35 years, and am happy with it as I have been told I can expect to receive £27,000 a year from age 60." However, she still pays £10 a month in additional voluntary contributions [AVCs], which are currently worth £32,000.
She said: "Once I am 60 I will buy an annuity with the AVCs, but I am not sure which one to get." With her savings and state pension entitlement on top of her company pension, Mrs Tilstra is confident she will have enough to provide for a comfortable retirement, although she is keen to be reassured on this point.
Along with sums in various savings accounts, including £25,000 in an ING Direct savings account, in which she deposits £500 a month, Mrs Tilstra has her home to consider. She bought her four-bedroom home for £186,000 in 1994 and, after some improvements, it is now worth around £480,000.
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The box halfway down the page, which doesn't cut and paste, is labelled 'Vital Statistics' and shows a salary of £48,000.
And arfu-sixpence of what relevance is a LGW SH STARTING salary?
And arfu-sixpence of what relevance is a LGW SH STARTING salary?
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I know for a fact that "basic salary" is only half the story for Heathrow BA Cabin Crew.
Literally.
The other 50% of their take-home being made up in a disgracefully large amount of allowances.
If this Doris is on £48k basic, you can add about the same again in (tax free) allowances, making her total package....
... a disgrace.
(and before the Mathematical Police get on my case, the £27k pension is worked out on basic, allowances not being pensionable, thanks)
Literally.
The other 50% of their take-home being made up in a disgracefully large amount of allowances.
If this Doris is on £48k basic, you can add about the same again in (tax free) allowances, making her total package....
... a disgrace.
(and before the Mathematical Police get on my case, the £27k pension is worked out on basic, allowances not being pensionable, thanks)
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I must admit I can't remember when I last saw a (Long Haul) BA CSD doing anything as mundane as serving tea & coffee ("I'll get one of my team to bring you some").
I guess they are too busy being "managerial". (or should that be "majesterial"?)
I guess they are too busy being "managerial". (or should that be "majesterial"?)
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Knock the girls down a peg or two and then we are next.
Ever heard the saying "a rising tide raises all boats"
For those who find it difficult to think laterally try "think before you open your mouth"
Ever heard the saying "a rising tide raises all boats"
For those who find it difficult to think laterally try "think before you open your mouth"
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To be fair, crystallising your pension can add around 50% to it's value. I feel this girl has put the time into the company, and she is reaping the just rewards. Imagine working for BA for 35 years, she deserves a medal !
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Ever heard the saying "a rising tide raises all boats"
Ever heard the expression an overloaded boat sinks and drowns everybody?
I too cannot for the life of me understand why she should want to reveal all but it finally silences the bleating from the CC defenders that they only earn x + allowances and demonstrates how grossly overpaid some of them are.
It would also go some way to explain their arrogance and sense of self-importance.
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I regularly fly with young pursers who are twice as good for half the money. You’ve got to ask yourself how somebody could get that much money for an equivalent job outside.
It’s a disgrace.
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It’s a disgrace.
I’ll take on the opposition anyday. It’s my management I can’t beat!
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Many of BA's staff are of a high quality and commited to Customer Service despite the slanderous comments made by some contributers. BA like most service companies has a wide range of staff with a wide range of attitude. The salaries have been reduced of late and if BA is to survive then ground / flight operations staff will have to forgo pay rises in the future, unless the industry sees a rapid rise in air travel / seat income. I am sure you all agree that the latter is unlikely.
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I guess if you put " Director" in her job title then no wonder she gets this type of deal. Anyone in BA should be really worried about the long term future of the company with this kind of non sensible pay deal for a member of cabin staff.
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the staring salary for a short haul CSD at LGW is more like £15,000 basic plus allowances
Having started with BOAC in 70's and earning an average of £500 a month, then working through the ranks to CSD and staying loyal to the Company, gaining all the increments then in my view she deserves to earn such a good salary. She is probably on her original BOAC contract and therefore she can work until she is 60.
And if people want to stay with a Company for 30+ years then good luck to them.
I started with BOAC in 1972 and sometimes wished I hadn't left in 1980, perhaps I would have been on the same salary and conditions now instead of my £1 per hour!!!
Allowances by the way are not part of the pension.
And if people want to stay with a Company for 30+ years then good luck to them.
I started with BOAC in 1972 and sometimes wished I hadn't left in 1980, perhaps I would have been on the same salary and conditions now instead of my £1 per hour!!!
Allowances by the way are not part of the pension.
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then working through the ranks to CSD and staying loyal to the Company, gaining all the increments then in my view she deserves to earn such a good salary.
One also has to question how a salary of that level can be justified for somebody who has some SEP training, is good with people (well some are) and serves food and drink!
Although from my observations CSDs do little of the latter.