Emirates emergency landing in JNB
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Cap 56.
Nice one , bang on , just wait for the slagging as many the dubai self apprecciation society chip in.
And before i'm attacked no i havent failed ek, passed, chose not to go for the same reasons.
cheers
Nice one , bang on , just wait for the slagging as many the dubai self apprecciation society chip in.
And before i'm attacked no i havent failed ek, passed, chose not to go for the same reasons.
cheers
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‘126,7,’, what ‘White Knight’ was referring to was that the Moderators have seen fit to remove three(?) posts on this page, two of which were from a contributor who made the suggestion that ‘Cap 56’ and ‘Streamline’ might be one in the same person. He also suggested that this person might be a disaffected ex-EK employee, (a First Officer), who was sacked by EK with the full agreement of UAE DCAA (and, I hasten to add, the vast majority of EK pilots).
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Fact #1
Nothing unusual on the load sheet. (cannot comment on actual loading)
Fact #2
For TOW 23280kg, TODV1min 14543ft if eng failed at V1 of 132 kts and assumed 30° flex on full runway length.
TOD for JNB21R is 14823ft.
Fact #3
Takeoff limited by brakes and not 2nd segment climb nor obstacle limited at 30°C
Fact #4
Takeoff obstacle limited at 32°C
Fact #5
Takeoff VMU limited at 28°C
Nothing unusual on the load sheet. (cannot comment on actual loading)
Fact #2
For TOW 23280kg, TODV1min 14543ft if eng failed at V1 of 132 kts and assumed 30° flex on full runway length.
TOD for JNB21R is 14823ft.
Fact #3
Takeoff limited by brakes and not 2nd segment climb nor obstacle limited at 30°C
Fact #4
Takeoff obstacle limited at 32°C
Fact #5
Takeoff VMU limited at 28°C
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I don't have the wisdom, the facts, nor the knowledge to make any judgement. I also wasn't there to observe what happened.
Maybe this has been mentioned before, I don't know, BUT I hear (this being ppRune) that the engines were derated more than reflected by the books. That A/C was an ex-Boeing A/C sold to Emirates (not that that should make a difference), having come from Singapore or some other outfit that changed to Boeing.
But the moral of the story is that any of us could have experienced the same as the (un)fortunate crew on that day, had we been using official data that was incorrect.
So , I take my hat of to the crew, irrespective of who is to blame. Let us rather look forward and learn from what happened (when the info is available) and correct the mistakes and forget about it.
Again, this is tsjust anuthzur rumour
Safe flying
Maybe this has been mentioned before, I don't know, BUT I hear (this being ppRune) that the engines were derated more than reflected by the books. That A/C was an ex-Boeing A/C sold to Emirates (not that that should make a difference), having come from Singapore or some other outfit that changed to Boeing.
But the moral of the story is that any of us could have experienced the same as the (un)fortunate crew on that day, had we been using official data that was incorrect.
So , I take my hat of to the crew, irrespective of who is to blame. Let us rather look forward and learn from what happened (when the info is available) and correct the mistakes and forget about it.
Again, this is tsjust anuthzur rumour
Safe flying
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Feeling a Little Dumpy? Think You Might be Putting on a Little Weight?
http://nation.ittefaq.com/artman/pub...cle_8773.shtml
It can lead to ground-stick - even though the paperwork is great.
It's not the lighter side of weight theft - pilferage
but 25% can affect your profit margins in the long run... particularly in that long run off the end......
how gross!
It can lead to ground-stick - even though the paperwork is great.
It's not the lighter side of weight theft - pilferage
but 25% can affect your profit margins in the long run... particularly in that long run off the end......
how gross!
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Should my previous post have incorrectly led anybody to believe that I implied that Boeing made a mistake, then I would like to apologise. This was not the intention whatsoever.
I don't see a connection with the two bits of info anyhow.
The company that operates the A/C would theoretically be in charge of making sure that the IRT data is correct.
I don't see a connection with the two bits of info anyhow.
The company that operates the A/C would theoretically be in charge of making sure that the IRT data is correct.
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Seems that EK needs DECaptains rather urgently...not only at the pointy end but in the head shed as well.
We wait with baited breath for the investigation...ah, outcome....presuming of course that the outcome will be 'OK' with the UAE DGCA.
We wait with baited breath for the investigation...ah, outcome....presuming of course that the outcome will be 'OK' with the UAE DGCA.
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The anonymous Cap 56 has made some rather serious and wide-ranging allegations on this thread. Readers of his (and Streamline's) posts might be forgiven for thinking that he is employed by EK. (Note that I said 'he', not 'they').
It needs to be said that First Officer Cap 56 ceased his employment with EK in 1999 or thereabouts in circumstances that could only be termed 'highly unusual'.
Rightly or wrongly. five or so years later, he quite obviously still feels very aggrieved.
It needs to be said that First Officer Cap 56 ceased his employment with EK in 1999 or thereabouts in circumstances that could only be termed 'highly unusual'.
Rightly or wrongly. five or so years later, he quite obviously still feels very aggrieved.
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CAP 56
'A...technically speaking perfectly... A340'.
Did you have many conversations? What were they about? Good depth of knowledge of all things technical?No grammatical errors,eh?
Do Airbus and the Press know about this phenomenon???????????????
'A...technically speaking perfectly... A340'.
Did you have many conversations? What were they about? Good depth of knowledge of all things technical?No grammatical errors,eh?
Do Airbus and the Press know about this phenomenon???????????????
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PPRuNers please note, CAP 56 is not the source of anything that appears in Flight International this week (or at any time in history), but you might find what we have reported useful to test his theories against.
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CAP 56
I do not care to get into a debate about why you left Emirates,
but the GF air incident and this particular one have nothing in common other than both aircraft being Airbus. The GF incident has been studied and been beaten to death in the western world in all universities and I can assure you that Emirates in JNB is completely different. For one there were no fatalities. The crew never lost situational awareness. The whole issue you are trying to raise is losing credibility when you attack fellow colleagues in such a way. When you retire and are no longer flying you can look back and say " I have been fortunate enough to have had no inidents or accidents, thank god"
Skyslave
I do not care to get into a debate about why you left Emirates,
but the GF air incident and this particular one have nothing in common other than both aircraft being Airbus. The GF incident has been studied and been beaten to death in the western world in all universities and I can assure you that Emirates in JNB is completely different. For one there were no fatalities. The crew never lost situational awareness. The whole issue you are trying to raise is losing credibility when you attack fellow colleagues in such a way. When you retire and are no longer flying you can look back and say " I have been fortunate enough to have had no inidents or accidents, thank god"
Skyslave