PPRuNe Forums

PPRuNe Forums (https://www.pprune.org/)
-   Rotorheads (https://www.pprune.org/rotorheads-23/)
-   -   Bristow S92 down west of Bergen Norway (https://www.pprune.org/rotorheads/657874-bristow-s92-down-west-bergen-norway.html)

Medevac999 29th Feb 2024 14:49


Originally Posted by HeliComparator (Post 11606321)
Someone dies, this creates an opportunity for some childish bickering and point scoring. Rather sad.

well said!

Jimmy. 29th Feb 2024 15:05


Originally Posted by hargreaves99 (Post 11606233)
That "loss of control incident" was 4 years ago. Feb 2020

https://www.nsia.no/Aviation/Published-reports/2024-03


This one:
https://aerossurance.com/safety-mana...trol-incident/


jimf671 1st Mar 2024 03:31


Originally Posted by hargreaves99 (Post 11606233)
That "loss of control incident" was 4 years ago. Feb 2020

https://www.nsia.no/Aviation/Published-reports/2024-03

AND ...
92-0169 was built from Day 1 as a SAR aircraft for BHL on the UK's GAP-SAR contract 2013-2017 (G-MCGC at Sumburgh). Therefore it is equipped with SAR automation.

TiPwEiGhT 1st Mar 2024 05:15


Originally Posted by malabo (Post 11606231)
Same operator as the S-92 loss of control incident a week back. Coincidence or systemic shortcomings? Wonder if the crew will allow accident investigators access to CVR or FDM data on this one.

The report clearly says the internal investigation didn't get access to the data.

Blackhawk9 1st Mar 2024 07:33


Originally Posted by TiPwEiGhT (Post 11606633)
The report clearly says the internal investigation didn't get access to the data.

This incident is now a fatal, so I don't think the union or anyone else can refuse access to data.

Nubian 1st Mar 2024 11:43


Originally Posted by Blackhawk9 (Post 11606681)
This incident is now a fatal, so I don't think the union or anyone else can refuse access to data.

Which has not been the case in the first place either.

The complete quote from the section in the report:

” The internal investigation team also wanted to listen to the cockpit voice recorder in order to better understand what had happened. In accordance with internal procedures, they asked for the pilot’s consent to do so. The pilots did not consent to this, however. The content of the CVR was secured and subsequently handed over to the NSIA”

NSIA = Norwegian Safety Investigation Authority, (AAIB for Norway)


maxwelg2 1st Mar 2024 11:48

S-92s back to regular flying over here in Newfoundland, just heard one going over the rooftop.

albatross 1st Mar 2024 12:11


Originally Posted by maxwelg2 (Post 11606882)
S-92s back to regular flying over here in Newfoundland, just heard one going over the rooftop.

Were they grounded?
Hope things are good in St. John’s.
I miss that place and the folks who live there.
Cheers

maxwelg2 1st Mar 2024 12:43


Originally Posted by albatross (Post 11606897)
Were they grounded?
Hope things are good in St. John’s.
I miss that place and the folks who live there.
Cheers

Yep, Cougar temporarily grounded the machines yesterday as a precautionary measure. Not much been mentioned to us SLF in a while about any notable aircraft type issues, some fatigue crack stuff but all seems to be captured by the AMEs. The TRPCS issue from 2016 I guess is just an ongoing HUMS monitoring point.

It will be 15 years since Cougar 491 on March 12 this year. Hard to believe how long ago that now is but never forgotten by many over here. Lest we forget…

albatross 1st Mar 2024 14:04


Originally Posted by maxwelg2 (Post 11606917)
Yep, Cougar temporarily grounded the machines yesterday as a precautionary measure. Not much been mentioned to us SLF in a while about any notable aircraft type issues, some fatigue crack stuff but all seems to be captured by the AMEs. The TRPCS issue from 2016 I guess is just an ongoing HUMS monitoring point.

It will be 15 years since Cougar 491 on March 12 this year. Hard to believe how long ago that now is but never forgotten by many over here. Lest we forget…

It was a sad event.This print hangs on a wall in my home ….always reminds me of 491.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....56ca76226.jpeg

212man 1st Mar 2024 14:43


Originally Posted by Blackhawk9 (Post 11606681)
This incident is now a fatal, so I don't think the union or anyone else can refuse access to data.

I don't think it matters if it was fatal or not (in this context) - it was a fully blown accident, as described in Annex 13, so the NSIA will have an automatic right to access the CVFDR data.

212man 1st Mar 2024 15:37

https://www.energyvoice.com/oilandga...-victim-named/

I see they plan to recover the aircraft over the weekend.

jazzypjs 1st Mar 2024 22:44

No direct link to the incident but an emergency AD has been issued by the FAA outlining immediate inspection requirements for certain GE engines, including CT7-8"s
FAA AD 2014-05-51

GenuineHoverBug 2nd Mar 2024 08:23

The helicopter was recovered over night from about 2-300 m depth and has arrived at a nearby naval base for conservation and further transport to the NSIA facilities. The CVR/FDR is said to have been located.
A picture

212man 2nd Mar 2024 08:51


Originally Posted by GenuineHoverBug (Post 11607420)
The helicopter was recovered over night from about 2-300 m depth and has arrived at a nearby naval base for conservation and further transport to the NSIA facilities. The CVR/FDR is said to have been located.
A picture

That is incredibly undamaged - normally the recovery itself causes some damage. It would certainly appear there was zero forward speed on impact, and little vertical. I won't speculate, but I think a picture is forming.......

Smokeyboy 2nd Mar 2024 09:15

Article in norwegian containing pictures.
 
https://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/...3ecd7423a462af

hargreaves99 2nd Mar 2024 09:23

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....93ee178c31.jpg


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....d90baa5832.jpg


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....37bb9c9f17.jpg

helicrazi 2nd Mar 2024 09:45


Looks like no main gear and a strike to the tail.

GenuineHoverBug 2nd Mar 2024 09:46

Link to the NSIA official preliminary information and a few more pictures. (Also in english)

rrekn 2nd Mar 2024 09:58

Also interesting that the floats didn't deploy...


All times are GMT. The time now is 20:42.


Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.