Bristow S92 down west of Bergen Norway
 

Latest reports 5 persons hoisted up. Unknown conditions.

Update: SAR version, 6 POB, all 6 flown to hospital. Unknown conditions.

Bristow SAR in Norway?

Very best wishes to all involved.

If flown to hospital, hopefully that means still alive.

Reuters - February 28, 20249:17 PM GMT

Helicopter crash lands in ocean off Norway, all 6 aboard rescued

(Sorry, can't post links yet :) )

ADSB Track
 

https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao...28&trackLabels

Looks like a normal training run, maybe they settled into the water unintentionally?

as opposed to intentionally?

Sadly, it was just confirmed that there is one fatality. The other five have varying degrees of injuries.

Update 29.2.24: One is critically injured, one has serious injuries and three have minor injuries.

The fatality was a female nurse in her 60s.

Same operator as the S-92 loss of control incident a week back. Coincidence or systemic shortcomings? Wonder if the crew will allow accident investigators access to CVR or FDM data on this one.

That "loss of control incident" was 4 years ago. Feb 2020

https://www.nsia.no/Aviation/Published-reports/2024-03

Not sure this design flaw has ever been fixed by Sikorsky other than increased monitoring -

https://skybrary.aero/accidents-and-...north-sea-2016

https://www.offshore-technology.com/...60853/?cf-view

I believe there were a handful of identical issues going back previously also as they issued an emergency AD just before that accident above.

https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-n...2-emergency-ad

Just a post to highlight previous loss of control events. Most likely unrelated to this event but you never know.

Considering the events you write of occurred in 2016 do you think your speculation is appropriate in this case?

I believe the TRPCS issue has never been redesigned so yes. They are protecting it with increased monitoring.

G-REDL happened in 2009 with Bond (16 fatal). The exact same failure mode happened again in 2016 with CHC (13 fatal)

Time apart 7yrs there. I don’t think time has any bearing on faulty design personally.

Chances of this accident being related to the same issue as the 2016 issue highlighted then it’s unlikely but they will be looking at all avenues and previous design related issues.

They likely already know the cause as they will have survivor feedback. Speculation therefore shouldn’t last too long.

G-REDL was a puma as was the CHC aircraft in 2016. This thread is about an S-92 🙄

Thanks for that Captain obvious :rolleyes:

What does an S92 and a Super Puma have in common? What do design faults have in common? What do aviation accidents have in common?

My point was about design flaws that have a habit of coming back to bite. Time is no measure. It’s not just on Super Pumas, S92’s, it happens across the whole of aviation whether that be whirly birds or fixed wing (B737 max for example)

This thread will naturally be open to speculation until something more formal comes out. Human nature my friend.

Chill out and relax :)

I think everyone knows that - Mitchaa's point was about unresolved design 'flaws'

my pleasure, Captain Irrelevant

Someone dies, this creates an opportunity for some childish bickering and point scoring. Rather sad.

well said!

This one:
https://aerossurance.com/safety-mana...trol-incident/

AND ...
92-0169 was built from Day 1 as a SAR aircraft for BHL on the UK's GAP-SAR contract 2013-2017 (G-MCGC at Sumburgh). Therefore it is equipped with SAR automation.

The report clearly says the internal investigation didn't get access to the data.

This incident is now a fatal, so I don't think the union or anyone else can refuse access to data.

Which has not been the case in the first place either.

The complete quote from the section in the report:

” The internal investigation team also wanted to listen to the cockpit voice recorder in order to better understand what had happened. In accordance with internal procedures, they asked for the pilot’s consent to do so. The pilots did not consent to this, however. The content of the CVR was secured and subsequently handed over to the NSIA”

NSIA = Norwegian Safety Investigation Authority, (AAIB for Norway)

S-92s back to regular flying over here in Newfoundland, just heard one going over the rooftop.

Were they grounded?
Hope things are good in St. John’s.
I miss that place and the folks who live there.
Cheers

Yep, Cougar temporarily grounded the machines yesterday as a precautionary measure. Not much been mentioned to us SLF in a while about any notable aircraft type issues, some fatigue crack stuff but all seems to be captured by the AMEs. The TRPCS issue from 2016 I guess is just an ongoing HUMS monitoring point.

It will be 15 years since Cougar 491 on March 12 this year. Hard to believe how long ago that now is but never forgotten by many over here. Lest we forget…

It was a sad event.This print hangs on a wall in my home ….always reminds me of 491.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....56ca76226.jpeg

I don't think it matters if it was fatal or not (in this context) - it was a fully blown accident, as described in Annex 13, so the NSIA will have an automatic right to access the CVFDR data.

https://www.energyvoice.com/oilandga...-victim-named/

I see they plan to recover the aircraft over the weekend.

No direct link to the incident but an emergency AD has been issued by the FAA outlining immediate inspection requirements for certain GE engines, including CT7-8"s
FAA AD 2014-05-51

The helicopter was recovered over night from about 2-300 m depth and has arrived at a nearby naval base for conservation and further transport to the NSIA facilities. The CVR/FDR is said to have been located.
A picture

That is incredibly undamaged - normally the recovery itself causes some damage. It would certainly appear there was zero forward speed on impact, and little vertical. I won't speculate, but I think a picture is forming.......

Article in norwegian containing pictures.
 

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....93ee178c31.jpg


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....d90baa5832.jpg


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....37bb9c9f17.jpg

Looks like no main gear and a strike to the tail.

Link to the NSIA official preliminary information and a few more pictures. (Also in english)

Also interesting that the floats didn't deploy...