|
G-LAWX S92 Incident AAIB
14 Oct 2019G-LAWXSIKORSKY S-92A High rate of decent on landing,Under Investigation
Anyone able to share anymore info? "High Rate of Decent on Landing" - would that not just be a "heavy landing" or is there more to this if we read between the lines? As this is simply a rumour network: Was this a case of failing to "practice what you preach"? Or a lack of recency and credible experience 'on-type'? Was it another 'Paul McCartney-esque' incident? Cant wait years for the official report so need to speculate now ........... On a more serious note - just thankful that everyone got away this time |
High RoD n landing and heavy landing are 2 very different things
|
Originally Posted by JulieAndrews
(Post 10639102)
14 Oct 2019G-LAWXSIKORSKY S-92A High rate of decent on landing,Under Investigation
Anyone able to share anymore info? "High Rate of Decent on Landing" - would that not just be a "heavy landing" or is there more to this if we read between the lines? As this is simply a rumour network: Was this a case of failing to "practice what you preach"? Or a lack of recency and credible experience 'on-type'? Was it another 'Paul McCartney-esque' incident? Cant wait years for the official report so need to speculate now ........... On a more serious note - just thankful that everyone got away this time |
QUOTE=helicrazi;10639116]High RoD n landing and heavy landing are 2 very different th
Helicrazi,
Would you mind sharing your wisdom on this matter with us then? HS |
Wasn't this the one that lost too much height on the approach to an oli rig, had an overtorque and heading deviation upon recovering?
I couldn't find the thread here nor the link, sorry. |
Originally Posted by Jimmy.
(Post 10639241)
Wasn't this the one that lost too much height on the approach to an oli rig, had an overtorque and heading deviation upon recovering?
I couldn't find the thread here nor the link, sorry. |
Wasn't this the one that lost too much height on the approach to an oli rig, had an overtorque and heading deviation upon recovering? I couldn't find the thread here nor the link, sorry. 1700fpm ROD, 10 KTS, 30’ off the water and pulled 145% torque drooping to 78% NR, both ACs off line and that S-92 still flew home. It’s one tough aircraft. |
Originally Posted by industry insider
(Post 10639360)
No, that one was in Canada. Regardless of the circumstances the parameters were approximately: 1700fpm ROD, 10 KTS, 30’ off the water and pulled 145% torque drooping to 78% NR, both ACs off line and that S-92 still flew home. It’s one tough aircraft. The incident I mentioned was this year, during approach, "sudden" loss of height and then NR drop combined with heading change (probably rapid collective increase), but I couldn't find the source. Agree with you, very tough aircraft. |
Originally Posted by Jimmy.
(Post 10639391)
Insider, I think you are talking about the Cougar incident after takeoff from a rig some years ago. IMC after takeoff, too much pitch up, FD coupled with airspeed dropping (and decoupled), descent IMC at very low airspeed at high rate and then VMC, overtorque...
The incident I mentioned was this year, during approach, "sudden" loss of height and then NR drop combined with heading change (probably rapid collective increase), but I couldn't find the source. Agree with you, very tough aircraft. |
Originally Posted by helicrazi
(Post 10639520)
no, Insider was referring to the much more recent incident, which occurred on approach.
|
Originally Posted by Jimmy.
(Post 10639668)
Thanks! Do you have a link, please?
|
Thank you, 212man.
|
Originally Posted by helicrazi
(Post 10639116)
High RoD n landing and heavy landing are 2 very different things
|
Explored the linked sites data.....came away thinking the Canadians must have some serious problems with excessive gravity with all the "Collided With Terrain" investigations.
The other thing that posed some interest was the "Collided With Trees" as compared to "Collided With Terrain"......whats the difference I wonder? |
Originally Posted by pilotmike
(Post 10640309)
Well go on then, we're all ears. Sounds crazi.
|
Julie
From your wording it's fairly plain that you think you know more about this than you're letting on. There was a serious incident - that much is plain otherwise AAIB would not be looking into it. It was reported by the crew - it's being investigated. I'm not invloved with the operator and never have been. Nor am I going to suggest people don't speculate - this is, as you say a rumour network. You however are not speculating - you're clearly trolling and one has to consider your motivation. OH |
TOH Not sure if I know anything more than anyone else in the UK Onshore Industry whom uses Pprune, waiting to see.......... Also - waiting to see how this incident fits within the scope of CAA’s recent report of the industry and it’s safety levels. I’ve attended various seminars, briefings and functions where a lot of back slapping goes on but the old spectre of commercial pressure remains. Couple that with the helicopter pilots’ natural eagerness to ‘push on’ and we get the repeat headlines - irregardless of how many CAA Industry Reports are published. Personally, I will be disappointed if it turns out to be another case of a crew thinking they did not require a dynamic risk assessment and ‘pushed on’, leading to an incident, further CAA restrictions and bad press for the industry. Maybe if you hear more details you can share them with us in a timely manner, rather than having to wait for the investigation report etc etc - which is the whole purpose of the thread; which, to be frank, I thought was fairly obvious? From what I have learnt since starting the thread is that there are various accounts of the information you have shared already. |
And WHOOPEE!! CAA SOC16 arrives in your in-box, to be completed by 31 December detailing how you conduct night off-airfield landings.
SND |
SASless, about twenty to thirty feet I'd guess :8
|
Originally Posted by Sir Niall Dementia
(Post 10641184)
And WHOOPEE!! CAA SOC16 arrives in your in-box, to be completed by 31 December detailing how you conduct night off-airfield landings.
SND |
| All times are GMT. The time now is 01:51. |
Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.