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MightyGem 26th Mar 2013 21:36


He was going on about how this is highly dangerous because the quality of training is going to plummet
Obviously been talking to Crab. :E :E

jimf671 26th Mar 2013 21:39


See the BBC is changing it's tune.

Bristow is now an "Aberdeen based company"

That's an improvement but they have also said ARMY and navy helicopters have been doing the job. :yuk:


I think their latest expert is a Buccaneer pilot. Talk of aeroplanes doing the job. :eek:

Macaco Norte 26th Mar 2013 21:48

Just found these on the Company website:


SAR CO-PILOT- BRI00228

Description

Having been successfully awarded UK SAR, we will be seeking to fill positions for the contract.

If you are interested in working with us please submit your application online.


Qualifications

Must have an EASA/CAA CPL(H) or equivalent with twin IR.

Bristow require SAR Co-pilots with previous experience of;

∑ Total flight time of one thousand (1,000) hours on aircraft of which 500 hours on helicopters;
∑ Successful completion of the appropriate company approved training course
∑ All SAR Co-pilots must be instrument rated.
∑ No criminal record, safe flying record and the right to reside and work in the UK.
Job: Pilots
Primary Location: Europe, Middle East-United Kingdom
Schedule: Full-time
Number of Openings: 50
Job Posting: Mar 26, 2013, 11:42:01 AM
Unposting Date: Ongoing


SAR COMMANDER- EBU00407

Description

Having been successfully awarded UK SAR, we will be seeking to fill positions for the contract.

If you are interested in working with us please submit your application online.


Qualifications

Must have an EASA/CAA ATPL(H) or equivalent with twin IR

Bristow require SAR Aircraft Commanders with previous experience of;

∑ Two thousand five hundred (2,500) hours as Pilot-In-Command (PIC) of aircraft of which one
thousand (1,000) hours is as PIC on helicopters.
∑ At least one thousand (1000) flying hours in multi-engine helicopters each.
∑ At least two hundred and fifty (250) hours on type except where previous glass cockpit experience can be demonstrated in which case this requirement may be reduced but will never be below one hundred (100) flying hours on type.
∑ At least five hundred (500) flying hours previous military/civilian SAR helicopters experience.
∑ Successful completion of the appropriate company approved training course.
∑ All Aircraft commanders must be instrument rated.
∑ No criminal record, safe flying record and the right to reside and work in the UK.
Job: Pilots
Primary Location: Europe, Middle East-United Kingdom
Schedule: Full-time
Number of Openings: 50
Job Posting: Mar 26, 2013, 10:58:00 AM
Unposting Date: Ongoing

jimf671 26th Mar 2013 23:06


Itís been a bit quiet from Crab so far today. Perhaps he is busy collating his medals and news paper cuttings and writing a CV
Is he in the hanger, talking to the techies about house prices in St Athan?

Thomas coupling 26th Mar 2013 23:56

Jim, try NewQuay for Crab's CV.

How are the mil pilots going to get 250hrs required on type?

[email protected] 27th Mar 2013 07:23

Mostly skiing in France:ok:

We will see what Bristows have to say about hours on type (clearly mil pilots won't have any) once their roadshow comes round the SAR flights and people start applying through the managed transition process.

onesquaremetre 27th Mar 2013 07:35

The Aberdeen heritage matters little. In a land where the dollar is king and the dollar is increasingly hard to come by, any corporation run by oilmen, lawyers and number crunchers is only likely to be interested in one line. The bottom one. Can you really privatise a public service and not expect the profit motive to have an influence on what's output? :confused:

Lioncopter 27th Mar 2013 07:53

Crab it might also be worth seeing if your bosses are now willing to let the Balpa roadshow come round now... As recently they were not keen at all..... :)

jimf671 27th Mar 2013 09:03

The DfT spec for aircrew experience was unchanged across both the February and September versions, though I suppose the unpublished final ITT could have been different. The figures in those documents are similar to what's in the Bristow ad shown above but the type and SAR figures are higher in the ad. Then there is the term in the DfT spec for the Commander that requires 'on each type' which does not appear in the ad.


[See ITT (19 Sep), Schedule 2.1, Specification, Section 2.3.1.]

Daysleeper 27th Mar 2013 09:23

What is a

safe flying record
as required in the advert?

I keep my logbook in a fireproof steel box with a lock on it...:hmm:

Macaco Norte 27th Mar 2013 09:53

So what exactly are the current SAR crews getting from Bristow on transition?
I would immagine a CPL(H) will be required at their own time/expense but with regards to IR & type rating what has been agreed? I presume the usual requirents for interviews/Psychometric testing will be discarded.

jimf671 27th Mar 2013 10:43

There is a whole list of people I would like to still have hovering over me 3 years from now and I hope no unreasonable obstacles will be placed in their way.

Fareastdriver 27th Mar 2013 11:47

If anybody thinks they are going to walk into Bristow as an aircraft commander they are going to be disappointed. With loads of SAR hours they will do your converstion and stick you in the left hand seat until you have the necessary hours on type. Remember there are are already qualified and experienced captains who are at present working for CHC and they will just change over companies. There are also type captains in the company with military and civil SAR experience who would be at the top of the list to go from offshore support to SAR if they put their names down.

Don't pack in you day job until you know you have a better job to go to.

jimf671 27th Mar 2013 12:01

Of course, they only have three bases to roll-out with a current type.

Prsesumably, the glass cockpit clause kicks in for the rest. Not much help for SK drivers.

ericferret 27th Mar 2013 12:50

I'm a little confused by the suggestion that military pilots are just going to move over to Bristow. I thought they all had contracts with H.M the Queen and they will just be posted to suitable new jobs unless they are declared redundant. Having spent a small fortune training these guys why would they be released? There must be through put in SH and surely these pilots (particularly the younger pilots) will become part of the pool for that thereby cutting the cost of recruiting and training ?

stilllearning 27th Mar 2013 13:05

sorry about my lack of knowledge. Then Bond is not in the game??? didn't get any piece of the cake???:confused:

leopold bloom 27th Mar 2013 13:17

ARCC
 
Anyone know what the future holds for ARCC?:confused:

Genie the Greenie 27th Mar 2013 13:19

100 pilots, 100 rear crew and 50 engineers!! these are not the standard oil & gas roundabout people who move around with contract changes, these are new positions. How much money will the oil compnaies throw at the operators to retain the service offshore with qualified staff? If that happens where are these drivers and mechs coming from for 2015??:confused:

snakepit 27th Mar 2013 13:22

The future of UK SAR, post SAR-H
 
Jim the S92A is glass cockpit too.
Stilllearning
Learn quicker or read the thread

Happy days :-)

snakepit 27th Mar 2013 13:31

The future of UK SAR, post SAR-H
 
Oh go on Stilllearning I will help you
Lot 1 5 bases of heavies (S92A)
Lot 2 5 bases of mediums (AW189)
Lot 3 all ten bases

Bristow won Lot 3
Simples?


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