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Old 25th Mar 2013, 21:06
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UK Search And Rescue Sold Off To US Company
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Old 25th Mar 2013, 23:08
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Bristow SAR announcement

According to the BBC!

BBC News - Bristow Group 'to take over UK search and rescue'

Busy times for Bristow
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Old 25th Mar 2013, 23:44
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BBC - Bristow Group 'to take over UK search and rescue'

BBC News - Bristow Group 'to take over UK search and rescue'
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Old 26th Mar 2013, 01:06
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1 in the sweepstake anyone? Monday 11th March to any point in the future, take your pick...
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26 march. Day before the politicians disappear on their expense fuelled Easter jollies. All the controversial decisions traditionally announced in this manner so the news is forgotten by the time they come back to work....
A statement due before the London stock exchange opens on Tuesday is expected to confirm the Bristow Group has won the contract from 2015 to 2026.
Gentlemen, please leave your money by the door on the way out.

'Nuff said....

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Old 26th Mar 2013, 07:13
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Well played SW....

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/g...d-rescue-fleet


The bases are on the link above.
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Old 26th Mar 2013, 07:26
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Did anyone else spot the "creative accounting"...?

Under the new contract, 22 state of the art helicopters will operate from 10 locations around the UK.

Ten Sikorsky S92s will be based, 2 per site, at Stornoway and Sumburgh, and at new bases at Newquay, Caernarfon and Humberside airports

Ten AgustaWestland AW189s will operate, 2 per site, from Lee on Solent and a new hangar at Prestwick airport, and new bases which will be established at St Athan, Inverness and Manston airports

If there are maintenance cover aircraft involved, they have not been specifically detailed, or does 22 really mean 20 ?
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Old 26th Mar 2013, 07:31
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The future of UK SAR, post SAR-H

A nice balanced report on sky. The usual drivel on the BBC (iPhone apps)
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Old 26th Mar 2013, 07:38
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The future of UK SAR, post SAR-H

2 per base and a spare?! Smash your new AW mug Jim
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Old 26th Mar 2013, 08:08
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Yes, Bristow's release is now out and it states...

Under the terms of this contract, Bristow Helicopters will provide 11 Sikorsky S-92 and 11 AgustaWestland AW189 helicopters that will be located at ten bases across the UK. Each SAR base will operate either two S-92s or two AW189s. In addition to the ten bases with 20 aircraft, there will be two fully SAR-equipped training aircraft that can be deployed to any base as needed.
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Old 26th Mar 2013, 08:19
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Please excuse what may be an ignorant question - but don't CHC operate SAR on behalf of the MCA from Stornoway, Sumburgh, Portland and Lee?

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Old 26th Mar 2013, 08:21
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Well Done Mr Bristow. All the bases are non military airfields with Inverness the surprise for me. The contract price seems fantastic value given the original forecast price band the DfT siad they expected for a full service (Lot 3). No wonder they won! I remember the SAR-H price for CHC was well over 6Bn for twice as long. The DfT and the Governemnt must be well chuffed at this improvement. So its St Athan not Cardiff for me then - I hope!
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Old 26th Mar 2013, 08:27
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airsound - At present, yes, but not for long. There is an interim period (referred to as "GAP SAR") where Bristow will run the Stornoway and Sumburgh bases with S92s, and CHC will continue the AW139 bases at Lee and Portland. Bristow are already in training mode for GAP SAR with two SAR S92s at Inverness (that now figures....) practicing and two more S92s to follow very soon. Then this new announcement is that Bristow takes over the whole thing, which will also take out all the RAF and RN Sea Kings with it. Long story, read the thread if you need more details.
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Please excuse what may be an ignorant question - but don't CHC operate SAR on behalf of the MCA from Stornoway, Sumburgh, Portland and Lee?
Yes they do! I suggest you read the whole thread and search for the SAR-H thread to get the bigger picture.
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Old 26th Mar 2013, 08:35
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Manston - so it's gone full circle! Bristow started the first civillian SAR operation there with S55s in 1971!

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Old 26th Mar 2013, 08:40
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2 per base and a spare?! Smash your new AW mug Jim
No compassion Snake. I am having my last cup of hot strong dark Ethiopian from it now.

You'll be wanting me to post photos next.
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Old 26th Mar 2013, 08:41
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If there are maintenance cover aircraft involved, they have not been specifically detailed, or does 22 really mean 20 ?
Sounds very familiar. Was anyone at the DfT project team ever in an RCT General Transport Troop?
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Old 26th Mar 2013, 08:59
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No surprises there then.

Now, all that's left is the Falklands


PS: The RN won't stop SAR, unlike the RAF. For the RN it has alweays been a secondary duty and it will continue to maintain that role. All suitably equipped squadrons will offer SAR....business as usual. 771NAS will still offer a menu of maritime activities.
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Old 26th Mar 2013, 09:02
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A nice balanced report on sky. The usual drivel on the BBC (iPhone apps)
This morning on the Radio 4 'Today' programme they really didn't have a clue. I flew SAR ops with Bristows out of Sumburgh back in the early 80's. They were asking questions about whether Bristows had any experience at all. The 'expert' being asked didn't have much idea either.
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helihub and 212 - many thanks. I fear I broke my own rule and didn't read far enough back in the thread - apologies.

Flap 5 - agreed. I'm pursuing the Beeb on the subject.

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Old 26th Mar 2013, 09:11
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Good to see they will be staying ar Prestwick and not moving to Glasgow as was first thought!
BBC News - Bristow Group to take over UK search and rescue from RAF
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