Drones over NY and NJ


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Perhaps we should start a Poll.....listing the many options of what the truth re the source and real explanation of all of this and see who comes closet to being right.
You do not have to corroborate your entry and mere uninformed opinion is allowable.....which judging by the existing posts shall be nothing new.
My offering is John Kirby is a two faced lying weasel and the government is the Operator. What they are up to is a test of some kind as part of developing detection and defensive measures.
I know I am on very solid ground re Kirby's credibility and devotion to the truth.
You do not have to corroborate your entry and mere uninformed opinion is allowable.....which judging by the existing posts shall be nothing new.
My offering is John Kirby is a two faced lying weasel and the government is the Operator. What they are up to is a test of some kind as part of developing detection and defensive measures.
I know I am on very solid ground re Kirby's credibility and devotion to the truth.


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Things that make you go hmmm...
Those drones mysteriously flying across I-70 around Colorado were believed by some to be looking for radioactive material that came up missing in the US.
Perhaps the NJ drones are nuclear sniffers.
Then again, note that the mass hysteria surrounding the drone sightings appears to have been exaggerated by the MSM (Covid-style) to astronomical levels and it could just be a deliberate attempt at creating a drone scare in order to push through H.R.8610, the Counter-UAS Authority Security, Safety, and Reauthorization Act of 2024.
Drone sightings in New Jersey show a lot of similarities to mystery drones seen in eastern Colorado in 2020
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There are many similarities between the drone sightings in both states, starting with reports from eyewitnesses. Four years ago, eastern Colorado resident Haley Harms described the drone's sound as a high pitch.
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There are many similarities between the drone sightings in both states, starting with reports from eyewitnesses. Four years ago, eastern Colorado resident Haley Harms described the drone's sound as a high pitch.
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Perhaps the NJ drones are nuclear sniffers.
Then again, note that the mass hysteria surrounding the drone sightings appears to have been exaggerated by the MSM (Covid-style) to astronomical levels and it could just be a deliberate attempt at creating a drone scare in order to push through H.R.8610, the Counter-UAS Authority Security, Safety, and Reauthorization Act of 2024.
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Things that make you go hmmm...
Those drones mysteriously flying across I-70 around Colorado were believed by some to be looking for radioactive material that came up missing in the US.
Perhaps the NJ drones are nuclear sniffers.
Then again, note that the mass hysteria surrounding the drone sightings appears to have been exaggerated by the MSM (Covid-style) to astronomical levels and it could just be a deliberate attempt at creating a drone scare in order to push through H.R.8610, the Counter-UAS Authority Security, Safety, and Reauthorization Act of 2024.
Those drones mysteriously flying across I-70 around Colorado were believed by some to be looking for radioactive material that came up missing in the US.
Perhaps the NJ drones are nuclear sniffers.
Then again, note that the mass hysteria surrounding the drone sightings appears to have been exaggerated by the MSM (Covid-style) to astronomical levels and it could just be a deliberate attempt at creating a drone scare in order to push through H.R.8610, the Counter-UAS Authority Security, Safety, and Reauthorization Act of 2024.
I fly in NY/NJ at night with passengers multiple times a week and have seen zero drones. Same goes for my colleagues. It's all MSM hype and the push for a Counter UAS act sounds very credible.

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Schumer is pushing to get a specific manufacturer product as well as his own anti-drone legislation. Robin Radar is held by Parcom, a private equity firm. Follow the money.
I am sure that Schumer is not alone in this. There must be others interested in turning what appears to be a combination of a hoax and gullible fools into a payday.
Meanwhile, not one tiny mention of Remote ID or hobby drone registration that was forced down the throats of the hobbyists. Why is that not working? Wasn't it explicitly for just such an purpose - to let people know who was operating drones? The FAA, at the behest of Congress, has gone after hobbyists for posting their drone-based videos of vacation spots because they didn't have a commercial license, on the grounds the YouTube sells advertising; even though the hobbyist gets zip from that sale.
Now off to the time when the anti-BLOS (beyond line of sight) rules that are applied to individuals are excepted to allow Amazon, et al, to fly their delivery drones, buzzing low over neighborhoods by the thousands. How much easier it will be if all hobby drones are made illegal to own or sell.
I am sure that Schumer is not alone in this. There must be others interested in turning what appears to be a combination of a hoax and gullible fools into a payday.
Meanwhile, not one tiny mention of Remote ID or hobby drone registration that was forced down the throats of the hobbyists. Why is that not working? Wasn't it explicitly for just such an purpose - to let people know who was operating drones? The FAA, at the behest of Congress, has gone after hobbyists for posting their drone-based videos of vacation spots because they didn't have a commercial license, on the grounds the YouTube sells advertising; even though the hobbyist gets zip from that sale.
Now off to the time when the anti-BLOS (beyond line of sight) rules that are applied to individuals are excepted to allow Amazon, et al, to fly their delivery drones, buzzing low over neighborhoods by the thousands. How much easier it will be if all hobby drones are made illegal to own or sell.
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From the BBC https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clyvnnj8g34o
Two people have been arrested after allegedly conducting a "hazardous drone operation" near the airspace of the US city of Boston's main airport, police said.
Robert Duffy, 42, and Jeremy Folcik, 32, were arrested on Long Island, part of the Boston Harbor Islands, on Saturday night.
They were charged with trespassing and police said they may face further counts and fines over the drones, which were "dangerously close" to Logan International Airport.
Their arrests follow a series of drone sightings across the US north-east in recent weeks. Police have given no indication that the sightings are connected to these arrests.
Police said the incident in Boston occurred at 16:30 local time (21:30 GMT) on Saturday when a police officer detected a drone operating "dangerously close" to Logan International Airport.
Police said they identified the drone's location and tracked the operators' position to a decommissioned health campus on Long Island. Because of the drone's proximity to an airport, FBI counter-terrorism agents helped the investigation.
Robert Duffy, 42, and Jeremy Folcik, 32, were arrested on Long Island, part of the Boston Harbor Islands, on Saturday night.
They were charged with trespassing and police said they may face further counts and fines over the drones, which were "dangerously close" to Logan International Airport.
Their arrests follow a series of drone sightings across the US north-east in recent weeks. Police have given no indication that the sightings are connected to these arrests.
Police said the incident in Boston occurred at 16:30 local time (21:30 GMT) on Saturday when a police officer detected a drone operating "dangerously close" to Logan International Airport.
Police said they identified the drone's location and tracked the operators' position to a decommissioned health campus on Long Island. Because of the drone's proximity to an airport, FBI counter-terrorism agents helped the investigation.

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If one has a camera with a decent clear aperture, like f2.8 and a good size, then try cutting out a UFO shape from an opaque material and putting that over the lens. Any point lights that are out of focus will take on that shape. Note that many of the videos include glowing spheres - because the opening of the cell phone camera lens is a circle and the point source is out of focus. For example:
Avoid imitations



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Exactly why would the DOD, DHS, National Guard, NOT SHOOT DOWN any number of these Drones as they fly back out to sea?


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Got any potassium iodide pills? ;-)


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They wouldn't send up drones sniffing in the world's busiest airspace without any NOTAMs or TFRs. The risk of a mid air between a drone and a helicopter would be way too high. Also, that's what NEST is for. They operate AW139s with all that sort of equipment. HeliOps has a story about them in their latest issue.
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Drone Detection System Deployed in New York
US officials are sending a drone detection system to New York, Governor Kathy Hochul says, after questions over mysterious objects in the skies over the east coast and beyond grew in recent days.
Hochul requested the federal assistance after drone sightings forced runways at Stewart International Airport in the state to shut for an hour last week.
"In response to my calls for additional resources, our federal partners are sending a drone detection system to New York," Hochul wrote on X on Sunday.
Hochul requested the federal assistance after drone sightings forced runways at Stewart International Airport in the state to shut for an hour last week.
"In response to my calls for additional resources, our federal partners are sending a drone detection system to New York," Hochul wrote on X on Sunday.

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Now Wright-Patterson for four hours. Millions of people and no one following the drones to their landing locations nor reporting the drones evaded them.
Of course the legislators want to add more laws regulating the drones they cannot find to stop them from doing what is already illegal.
How about let the military and the police work on solving the drone problem and the legislators can work on solving price gouging and healthcare issues?
Of course the legislators want to add more laws regulating the drones they cannot find to stop them from doing what is already illegal.
How about let the military and the police work on solving the drone problem and the legislators can work on solving price gouging and healthcare issues?


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JOKE
The situation is getting worse.
I am seeing car sized objects on the street passing within 150 feet of my house at night! They move at various speeds and directions, sometimes in groups.
They have lights on them. Bright white ones on the front and ominous red ones at rear, sometimes some of these lights flash when these objects go around corners! What can this mean?
I have no idea who is in control of them.
What are their intentions, where are they coming from? Are they gathering intelligence and if so for who?
I feel I have the right to know everything about any object approaching my domicile!
I am running out of the vital tinfoil needed to make hats.
I demand an investigation and explanation!
JOKE OVER.
The situation is getting worse.
I am seeing car sized objects on the street passing within 150 feet of my house at night! They move at various speeds and directions, sometimes in groups.
They have lights on them. Bright white ones on the front and ominous red ones at rear, sometimes some of these lights flash when these objects go around corners! What can this mean?
I have no idea who is in control of them.
What are their intentions, where are they coming from? Are they gathering intelligence and if so for who?
I feel I have the right to know everything about any object approaching my domicile!
I am running out of the vital tinfoil needed to make hats.
I demand an investigation and explanation!
JOKE OVER.


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The 2 NEST helicopters are primarily used for target monitoring/protection for large-scale NSSEs like the Super Bowl, etc. When an area search is needed, protracted monitoring, or for high exposure/risk (God forbid), drones cover greater area far more efficiently than a helicopter. It is also hard to hide helicopter/KA350ER aircraft from the public for sensitive and covert operations-imagine the panic if the public learned of a large-scale nuclear radiation detection operation. NOTAMs? Seriously.
We have multiple UAS NOTAMs here in NY/NJ since they do a lot of survey in the daytime for various things. Just pull up NOTAMs for either EWR or TEB and you'll see plenty FAA NOTAM search. They've been around for the last few years and move occasionally. Funny enough those areas where they actually do operate drones people don't seem to notice because no sightings have been in those areas.




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Well....this incident adds some interesting news re these drone sightings over the Army Arsenal.
Make of the content of the article as you wish....and add it to the list of reported sightings but this time with some useful information if true and accurate.
A host of explanations can be offered for the one drone losing power but which one is accurate?
https://www.foxnews.com/us/new-jerse...d-drone-report
Make of the content of the article as you wish....and add it to the list of reported sightings but this time with some useful information if true and accurate.
A host of explanations can be offered for the one drone losing power but which one is accurate?
https://www.foxnews.com/us/new-jerse...d-drone-report


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Well....this incident adds some interesting news re these drone sightings over the Army Arsenal.
Make of the content of the article as you wish....and add it to the list of reported sightings but this time with some useful information if true and accurate.
A host of explanations can be offered for the one drone losing power but which one is accurate?
https://www.foxnews.com/us/new-jerse...d-drone-report
Make of the content of the article as you wish....and add it to the list of reported sightings but this time with some useful information if true and accurate.
A host of explanations can be offered for the one drone losing power but which one is accurate?
https://www.foxnews.com/us/new-jerse...d-drone-report
The drone signal jamming is something that was installed at LGA a few months ago as well. For a brief time they had issues with the signal interfering with one of their tower frequencies.





