22 year old killed by tail rotor

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A few weeks ago in Saigon, hardly a paragon of OH&S, there was a fence down the middle of the road to stop people crossing at the wrong locations:

The traffic was far busier than shown here in May 2019 too; the number of cars in Saigon is growing incredibly fast.
Solutions are out there.
Removing the hazard is far more effective than telling people not to touch it/walk into it/crash into it.

The traffic was far busier than shown here in May 2019 too; the number of cars in Saigon is growing incredibly fast.
Solutions are out there.
Removing the hazard is far more effective than telling people not to touch it/walk into it/crash into it.
,...but why should we have to come up with "solutions" for the people who don't have what used to be called "common sense""?
Its like most cars these days that they think have to yell at us every three minutes if we don't put on our seat belt. Once is enough. If I'm not wearing it after that, its because I choose not to!


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A few weeks ago in Saigon, hardly a paragon of OH&S, there was a fence down the middle of the road to stop people crossing at the wrong locations:

The traffic was far busier than shown here in May 2019 too; the number of cars in Saigon is growing incredibly fast.
Solutions are out there.
Removing the hazard is far more effective than telling people not to touch it/walk into it/crash into it.

The traffic was far busier than shown here in May 2019 too; the number of cars in Saigon is growing incredibly fast.
Solutions are out there.
Removing the hazard is far more effective than telling people not to touch it/walk into it/crash into it.


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From: Brantisvogan
A few weeks ago in Saigon, hardly a paragon of OH&S, there was a fence down the middle of the road to stop people crossing at the wrong locations:
Solutions are out there.
Removing the hazard is far more effective than telling people not to touch it/walk into it/crash into it.
Solutions are out there.
Removing the hazard is far more effective than telling people not to touch it/walk into it/crash into it.
Needless to say many impressions are left in windscreens.
A human being's desire to do what they do will never be stopped by a fence, nor any "solution to the problem". It will dissuade many, but not all.
If human behaviour could be solved there would be no accidents, you can only try, but those that like sticking warning labels on everything can attest to the futility.


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As the father of three daughters, late teens to mid twenties, the "Selfie" is the MOST important thing in the world. You can't tell a millennial anything, they know it all. They will take photos of everything from what they are drinking and eating to what they are wearing. It's the disease of the millennial that have to Abe up-loaded onto to facetwatter
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Not a helicopter pilot, but I've been around them. They are noisy, windy things when the rotors are turning. Serious question - how difficult is it to not notice a turning tail rotor? Presumably still potentially deadly when turning very slowly, could that be the case here?

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As the father of three daughters, late teens to mid twenties, the "Selfie" is the MOST important thing in the world. You can't tell a millennial anything, they know it all. They will take photos of everything from what they are drinking and eating to what they are wearing. It's the disease of the millennial that have to Abe up-loaded onto to facetwatter


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That was something mentioned earlier in the thread, tied to various speculation over
'Why did the young man, upon reached the destination as a passenger, and having exited and moved away from the helicopter, then to back to the helicopter?"
If you are interested, might want to go back to the top of the thread and work your way down.
That was later challenged as various other bits of information came dripping in.
'Why did the young man, upon reached the destination as a passenger, and having exited and moved away from the helicopter, then to back to the helicopter?"
If you are interested, might want to go back to the top of the thread and work your way down.
Originally Posted by one of the posts on page 1
The newspaper report i read, said that they were escorted to the arrivals lounge, but he then turned and ran back holding his phone for a call/selfie.



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It is easy to get disorientated near a machine that is making an enormous amount of noise. Easy to get confused as you exit and think you are running forwards but run towards the rear instead, and with the huge onslaught of noise, you cannot hear anyone's shouted warnings. People instinctively know that it is safer to run behind a car than in front of one, so maybe instinct takes over and they go the wrong way from a helicopter despite what they may have been briefed to do.
Ground crews around commercial airliners will not approach an aircraft if its beacon is flashing, nor will the doors be opened until the engines have been safely shut down. Same ought to apply to helicopters. Because of the cool-down time required for helicopter engines, some folk literally can't wait for them to stop.

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On the contrary, I’ve read and followed this thread from start to finish and was aware of the original selfie claim👍. I posted earlier (#154) about that rumour/story having been retracted by the authorities, hence my question (which in hindsight probably looks like more of a challenge than a question) as to why reference to that false story had been resurrected.
Apologies if I wasn’t clear with that question, it was poorly worded. I assumed others would have read the thread and seen #154 before resurrecting the selfie reference.
Apologies if I wasn’t clear with that question, it was poorly worded. I assumed others would have read the thread and seen #154 before resurrecting the selfie reference.
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From: Erko, Sydney
Q. What's gold and goes around at 100mph?
A. Jack Newton's watch.


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Q: What force is required to stop a propellor?
A: One Newton
Q: What is required to stop a propellor?
A: A strong arm, a good eye, and a lot of guts.
My friends were on night shift 2 hangars away from the incident.
A: One Newton
Q: What is required to stop a propellor?
A: A strong arm, a good eye, and a lot of guts.
My friends were on night shift 2 hangars away from the incident.

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This a joke, ......!


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