RAF announces Puma Replacement plan

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The H175 rotor brake is poor at the best of times - I understand no tie-downs were applied. Funny how the windspeed increases each day. Dramatic for blades to separate - no matter how windy.


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I think they got one on before the damage started. Not a straight forward set of circumstances

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...quelle surprise,
surprise surprise....
NMH bidders wait on updated timeline from UK MoD | News | Flight Global
NMH bidders wait on updated timeline from UK MoD | News | Flight Global
surprise surprise....
NMH bidders wait on updated timeline from UK MoD | News | Flight Global
Contenders for the UK’s New Medium Helicopter (NMH) requirement are due to meet with defence officials on 24 February 2023,
where they will likely be told of a further delay to the procurement process.
Aircraft suppliers Airbus Helicopters, Leonardo Helicopters and Sikorsky, alongside Boeing, which is pitching a support and training solution,
were last October selected for the next stage of the NMH acquisition and were awaiting the launch of an invitation to negotiate (ITN).
But recent ministerial statements have seen a softening of language, moving from a deadline of 31 March 2023 to simply “later this year”.
Commodore Jol Woodard,
ead of combat aviation programmes for the British Army, addressing delegates at Defence IQ’s International Military Helicopter conference in London on 21 February 2023,
declined to reveal the NMH programme’s latest timeline.
A “supplier session” will take place on 24 February 2023, he says, during which the latest programme schedule will be detailed.
But inter-departmental tensions amid wider government budget cutting appear to be slowing progress with NMH.
“We are working incredibly hard now to secure the necessary cross-government approvals
o allow us to launch the second stage of the competition as soon as possible,” says Woodard.
Airbus Helicopters is pitching the H175M for NMH, while Leonardo Helicopters is proposing the AW149. Both would be built in the UK if selected.
Sikorsky, meanwhile, is offering its S-70M Black Hawk, but has yet to detail its UK industrial plan.
Service entry had been expected in 2025 to match the out-of-service date of the Royal Air Force’s (RAF’s) Puma fleet
ut it is unclear if that goal can still be met under an increasingly compressed schedule.
where they will likely be told of a further delay to the procurement process.
Aircraft suppliers Airbus Helicopters, Leonardo Helicopters and Sikorsky, alongside Boeing, which is pitching a support and training solution,
were last October selected for the next stage of the NMH acquisition and were awaiting the launch of an invitation to negotiate (ITN).
But recent ministerial statements have seen a softening of language, moving from a deadline of 31 March 2023 to simply “later this year”.
Commodore Jol Woodard,
ead of combat aviation programmes for the British Army, addressing delegates at Defence IQ’s International Military Helicopter conference in London on 21 February 2023,
declined to reveal the NMH programme’s latest timeline.
A “supplier session” will take place on 24 February 2023, he says, during which the latest programme schedule will be detailed.
But inter-departmental tensions amid wider government budget cutting appear to be slowing progress with NMH.
“We are working incredibly hard now to secure the necessary cross-government approvals
o allow us to launch the second stage of the competition as soon as possible,” says Woodard.
Airbus Helicopters is pitching the H175M for NMH, while Leonardo Helicopters is proposing the AW149. Both would be built in the UK if selected.
Sikorsky, meanwhile, is offering its S-70M Black Hawk, but has yet to detail its UK industrial plan.
Service entry had been expected in 2025 to match the out-of-service date of the Royal Air Force’s (RAF’s) Puma fleet
ut it is unclear if that goal can still be met under an increasingly compressed schedule.

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...quelle surprise,
surprise surprise....
NMH bidders wait on updated timeline from UK MoD | News | Flight Global NMH bidders wait on updated timeline from UK MoD | News | Flight Global
surprise surprise....
NMH bidders wait on updated timeline from UK MoD | News | Flight Global NMH bidders wait on updated timeline from UK MoD | News | Flight Global

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https://www.flightglobal.com/helicop...152194.article
https://www.flightglobal.com/helicop...152194.article
Boeing has shifted its approach to the UK’s New Medium Helicopter (NMH) contest and is no longer pursuing the requirement as a prime contractor....
The US firm was one of four companies – alongside Airbus Helicopters, Leonardo Helicopters and Sikorsky –
picked last September to proceed to the next stage of the NMH acquisition,
having successfully passed the pre-qualification questionnaire (PQQ) step.
But unlike its rivals in the process,
Boeing was not proposing an airframe,
instead offering a services, training and support solution,
likely in the expectation that the UK Ministry of Defence (MoD) would contract that requirement separately to the aircraft.
In changing tack, the manufacturer will essentially still be offering the same range of solutions as before but will be approaching the contract in a different manner.
“Boeing continues to follow the New Medium Helicopter procurement with interest
and explore how we can best support it, based on the MoD’s requirements and what technology we can offer.
“While we aren’t sharing specific details about our involvement at this time,
Boeing has supported the UK armed forces for decades
and employs hundreds of people across the country in helicopter sustainment, maintenance and training,” it says.
Bidders are due to meet with UK defence officials on 24 February 2023 to receive an update on the procurement timeline.
That is likely to lay out a delay to the acquisition process.
The three competitors were due to receive an invitation to negotiate by 31 March 2023
but this target now appears to have slipped as the programme office struggles to gain sign-off for the procurement.
The US firm was one of four companies – alongside Airbus Helicopters, Leonardo Helicopters and Sikorsky –
picked last September to proceed to the next stage of the NMH acquisition,
having successfully passed the pre-qualification questionnaire (PQQ) step.
But unlike its rivals in the process,
Boeing was not proposing an airframe,
instead offering a services, training and support solution,
likely in the expectation that the UK Ministry of Defence (MoD) would contract that requirement separately to the aircraft.
In changing tack, the manufacturer will essentially still be offering the same range of solutions as before but will be approaching the contract in a different manner.
“Boeing continues to follow the New Medium Helicopter procurement with interest
and explore how we can best support it, based on the MoD’s requirements and what technology we can offer.
“While we aren’t sharing specific details about our involvement at this time,
Boeing has supported the UK armed forces for decades
and employs hundreds of people across the country in helicopter sustainment, maintenance and training,” it says.
Bidders are due to meet with UK defence officials on 24 February 2023 to receive an update on the procurement timeline.
That is likely to lay out a delay to the acquisition process.
The three competitors were due to receive an invitation to negotiate by 31 March 2023
but this target now appears to have slipped as the programme office struggles to gain sign-off for the procurement.
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H175M Task Force
Looks like Boeing Defence UK have joined the H175M Task Force….
Airbus welcomes Boeing to H175M Task Force for UK New Medium Helicopter competition
Airbus welcomes Boeing to H175M Task Force for UK New Medium Helicopter competition


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Looks like Boeing Defence UK have joined the H175M Task Force….
Airbus welcomes Boeing to H175M Task Force for UK New Medium Helicopter competition
Airbus welcomes Boeing to H175M Task Force for UK New Medium Helicopter competition


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Very telling of the confidence Airbus have in their own training providers?
Supply chain disruption as Airbus France stop building aircraft due to industrial action - backlog of 70 completed wing sets at Broughton, Chester.
Plays nicely into Lyingnardos hands.....
Supply chain disruption as Airbus France stop building aircraft due to industrial action - backlog of 70 completed wing sets at Broughton, Chester.
Plays nicely into Lyingnardos hands.....

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From: The South

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Airbus aren’t in the business of providing large scale, long term training solutions. It’s not their core business, that’s manufacturing helicopters. The two Academies and all of the Customer Centres provide training to support aircraft sales and will support the initial instructor training for NMH, just like MFTS.


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Airbus aren’t in the business of providing large scale, long term training solutions. It’s not their core business, that’s manufacturing helicopters. The two Academies and all of the Customer Centres provide training to support aircraft sales and will support the initial instructor training for NMH, just like MFTS.

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What is so woeful about the EASA approved Level D FFS?
Who was going to provide AceHawk’s training solution?



